[Lincolnparkdc] Need Speed Camera at 17th + A SE

Tim Dube timothydube at gmail.com
Tue Aug 10 15:35:41 EDT 2021 

What I'm taking from the 13th/NC and now this 17th/A series is that we
haven't made it clear to passers-through that we all just want to take care
of each other. One community-oriented option is one of the $20 fluorescent
yellow kids with red hats at all the troubled spots we keep identifying in
our echo chamber. There are fluorescent yellow dogs too. I find that
picking mine up and swinging it when a car is rolling through the 12th/Indy
intersection effectively shames at least that oncoming car to stop. I
recommend weighing the objects down with gravel or sand or else they walk
away.

Some cities have "crossing flags" at tough intersections with a bucket on
either end. I don't like that it puts the onus on the pedestrian to make
cars comply, but at least it's very visible, unlike a dog or kid below eye
level walking in front of you. They and the yellow guys make clear to
passers-through that *we* are paying attention and don't have to cry to the
Police or DDOT to keep our streets safe. Just another angle to consider.
I'm happy to set up a fund to buy up these fluorescent yellow things in
bulk if folks want to have a sand-stuffing party activity at the block
party in October?


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> From: Christopher Szczypinski <christophereszc at gmail.com>
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> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know how we can get a speed camera or stop sign put up at
> 17th + A SE?
>
> I don't know if any of you walk this way but there is a crosswalk with a
> pedestrian sign and 99% of cars blow right through it. If you walked out in
> front of them you'd get killed.
>
> Any ideas what can be done?
>
> Chris
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> From: Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com>
> To: "Handsfield, Will (DDOT)" <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>,
>         lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
> Subject: Re: [Lincolnparkdc] North Lincoln Park project: Reply from
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> Thanks Tom.  Will, how many parking spots would be lost w the one way
> option and where would they be lost from? Specifics please.  Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 2:23 PM Tom Woteki <drwo at woteki.com> wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> > I?m forwarding this reply from Will Handsfield who is at DDOT. He
> > attempted to post his reply to the list, but he is not a subscriber. For
> > this of you who were on the Zoom call last year about the Kentucky Ave
> > project, this is the same person who was on that call.
> >
> > Town Crier
> >
> > *From: *"Handsfield, Will (DDOT)" <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>
> > *Subject: **RE: [Lincolnparkdc] DDOT north lincoln park project*
> > *Date: *August 9, 2021 at 3:09:20 PM EDT
> > *To: *John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>, "
> > lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info" <lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
> > *Cc: *"Arlotto, Regina (DDOT)" <Regina.Arlotto at dc.gov>, "Gove, Amber
> (SMD
> > 6A04)" <6A04 at anc.dc.gov>
> >
> >
> > Just to clarify, only the options that retain a 2-way travel pattern for
> > vehicles would remove the 35 parking spaces, and those options would not
> > divert any traffic.  If DDOT selects a one-way travel pattern, it will
> > allow for parking on both sides of the street, but will divert the
> current
> > eastbound NC traffic.  From our model, the diverted traffic up 13th and
> > onto East Capital is about 600 cars per day, with the biggest bubble of
> > that being at the 5 PM hour, with about 60 extra turning onto East
> Capitol,
> > and 60 continuing up 13th to turn at Constitution.  Just to give a sense
> > of magnitude, that is 1 additional car per minute.  In DDOT?s
> understanding
> > of traffic issues, these are VERY small changes to existing volumes, and
> > can easily be absorbed on these two streets.
> >
> > *From:* John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 5, 2021 2:00 PM
> > *To:* lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
> > *Cc:* Arlotto, Regina (DDOT) <Regina.Arlotto at dc.gov>; Handsfield, Will
> > (DDOT) <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>; Gove, Amber (SMD 6A04) <
> > 6A04 at anc.dc.gov>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Lincolnparkdc] DDOT north lincoln park project
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> > ?
> >  ?
> > Marche?
> > ?
> > ?I agree with your concern about losing about 35 parking spaces as it
> will
> > clearly impact many neighboring blocks as people have to look further for
> > parking. There likely will be secondary and tertiary responses as people
> > have to look further to find a parking space. It will also expose all to
> > increased risk of exposure to crime (which is unfortunately on the rise)
> > and create added challenges to those with mobility issues.
> >
> > However, I disagree how the traffic will probably divert. Those headed
> for
> > Tennessee will continue as in the past. Those headed farther east will
> more
> > like turn earlier at East Cap and then turn left at either 15th or 19th
> to
> > get to C street NE and the RFK fields, etc
> >
> >
> > John
> > John F Hirschmann
> > hirschj154 at gmail.com
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2021, at 13:51, Marche Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > DDOT removing the right hand turn lane of 13th Street and North Carolina
> > Ave. N.E. would force all east-bound traffic further north to the
> > Constitution / 13th St. intersection, directly in front of Maury
> > elementary. Moreover, the removal of 35 parking spaces on the south side
> of
> > North Carolina Ave. does not remove 35 cars from the road. Also, it
> forces
> > 35 residents to compete with neighboring streets and neighbors for
> parking
> > spots. This is particularly dangerous now that the city has not been able
> > to curb the violence and street crime in the neighborhood.  It is also a
> > burden for those with mobility issues who will have to walk blocks to
> their
> > homes.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 1:34 PM Tim Dube <timothydube at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The proposal is to put in conforming bike lanes like those that exist
> > around LP from the NW and SE (Mass Ave) and SW (North Carolina Ave)
> corners
> > so that the NE (North Carolina to C St) corner is a connected bikeway to
> > RFK Stadium/The Fields via C St. This is long overdue, as the flyer says.
> > That two-block stretch of NC to Constitution/15th is nonconforming and
> too
> > narrow compared to the other 3 safer corners. However, DDOT should not
> slow
> > down. I support this project post haste and urge my neighbors to, too.
> > These lanes can serve as a critical connection between the LP community
> and
> > the Kingman Park community. This project would directly and positively
> > benefit Maury, Miner, Elliott-Hine, Appletree 12th, Kingman Academy,
> > Appletree Oklahoma, and Eastern families with safer routes to school, not
> > to mention the several in-home daycares in the NE area.
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> From: Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com>
> To: Charles Allen <Charles at charlesallenward6.com>,  "Handsfield, Will
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> Chris, this is a good example of why ddot, included on this email, should
> focus on areas of need, instead of intruding on areas that are fine.
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 2:30 PM Christopher Szczypinski <
> christophereszc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know how we can get a speed camera or stop sign put up at
> > 17th + A SE?
> >
> > I don't know if any of you walk this way but there is a crosswalk with a
> > pedestrian sign and 99% of cars blow right through it. If you walked out
> in
> > front of them you'd get killed.
> >
> > Any ideas what can be done?
> >
> > Chris
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> From: Ruslan Ternovyi <ruslanternovy at gmail.com>
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> Somebody has complained about the same about a year ago and they sent an
> officer to check it.
>
> I was able to talk to that officer (officer Robinson) asking him about
> cameras. The officer said: "people in the neighborhood need to start with
> 311 number. More people call - more probability that the government will
> put a camera to control that.
>
> I used to walk my dog crossing that intersection and completely agree that
> there are times when the drivers simply don't notice pedestrians who wait
> to cross the street.
>
> Also there is a sign there that says about a fine of $500 for not stoping
> in front of the crossing pedestrians doesn't scare them, even though the
> actual fine is no more than $250 according to the officer Robinson.
>
> Ruslan
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:30 PM Christopher Szczypinski <
> christophereszc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know how we can get a speed camera or stop sign put up at
> > 17th + A SE?
> >
> > I don't know if any of you walk this way but there is a crosswalk with a
> > pedestrian sign and 99% of cars blow right through it. If you walked out
> in
> > front of them you'd get killed.
> >
> > Any ideas what can be done?
> >
> > Chris
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