[Lincolnparkdc] Fwd: my Walk around Lincoln Park
Jeffrey Spector
jspectoresq at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 18:49:00 EDT 2020
It’s about risk management. If a runner sneezes on you, that could be bad
if they are sick. But the odds of a runner sneezing on you are relatively
low ... since they are running past you. People just need to respect and
try to accommodate each other.
A runner just snuck up on me, passing by and completely ignoring the 6-foot
rule... can I get the virus this way if they are infected?
Morse was on the Brian Lehrer Show today
<https://www.wnyc.org/story/can-you-catch-covid-19-cardboard-box>, and
actually answered this there. He said if someone passes you within a few
feet, instead of six, "The risk is going to increase if someone has the
infection, and with the amount of time you may be near them... if they're
coughing or sneezing in your direction and are infected and you are close,
then you have a better chance of getting infected. People who are just
walking or running by, the chances are if they are not coughing or sneezing
at that moment you have a very low likelihood of getting infected. Nothing
is ever completely without risk, but probably for most people it's going to
be very low risk. Be careful, but these very short encounters are not
likely to be major sources of spread."
https://gothamist.com/news/we-asked-epidemiologist-our-most-pressing-coronavirus-questions
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:35 PM Tim Dube <timothydube at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that’s fair. I also think runners out during the day should use
> the bike lanes where available. There aren’t a lot of cars so bikes can
> safely pass in the travel lane. (I say this as a runner and biker.)
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:26 PM James Grimaldi <jamesvgrimaldi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It is simply untrue that you cannot get the virus while walking past
>> someone. You most certainly can, although it is unlikely. While sunlight
>> likely kills the virus and it is harder to contract from a jogger outdoors,
>> a six-foot standard distance is recommended even for runners.
>> https://www.today.com/health/can-i-run-outside-during-coronavirus-it-ok-go-walk-t176256 In
>> fact, at one point, jogging was banned in Italy
>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/21/818971466/despite-lockdown-italys-coronavirus-cases-continue-dramatic-climb>, Spain
>> and France
>> <https://www.rt.com/news/483893-france-ban-jogging-coronavirus/> to
>> prevent the spread.
>> The six-foot standard is not being maintained by wheezing, hacking,
>> spitting joggers cluelessly running around Lincoln Park, so it might be
>> best just to avoid the park.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:07 PM Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John. Still think the part *“and has no entry into the
>>> patient’s room” *is a bit…. I just think that for those of us who ARE
>>> compromised (I have had pneumonia 3 times over the years and have been told
>>> NOT to get it again) the 6 feet standard is a good as well as easy standard
>>> to judge and maintain. We are all balancing on the weakest link right now
>>> and without over analyzing it, I’ll maintain the six foot standard and hope
>>> the rest of our wonderful community will as well. Onward. Mia
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> *From: *John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>>> *Subject: **Re: [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park*
>>> *Date: *March 25, 2020 at 1:49:30 PM EDT
>>> *To: *lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>> *Reply-To: *lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The AMA has posted the following guidance for medical personel under
>>> section on „Brief interaction with a Patient“
>>>
>>> If a physician or other health professional walks by a patient with
>>> COVID-19, has no direct contact with the patient or their secretions and
>>> excretions, and has no entry into the patient’s room, there is no
>>> identifiable risk. In this instance, no monitoring or work restrictions are
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> While not directly addressing your question, I think it’s relevant
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> John F Hirschmann
>>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 13:21, Diana Quinn <dqquinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Mia- contacting you privately
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:16 PM Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Diane, but if you don’t mind could you cite your sources please?
>>>> Mia
>>>>
>>>> From Mia's iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Diana Quinn <dqquinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, you should be able to run by someone, or have
>>>> someone run by you, without being in trouble. It's prolonged contact for 3
>>>> minutes or more when it is supposed to become a problem.
>>>>
>>>> dq
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear neighbors, I just took a walk around Lincoln Park "social
>>>>> distancing" my way around and had three people run past me with less than
>>>>> three feet between us. Can we Please Please be more conscious about spacing
>>>>> when taking our walks.
>>>>> With thanks, Mia
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