<div><div dir="auto">It’s about risk management. If a runner sneezes on you, that could be bad if they are sick. But the odds of a runner sneezing on you are relatively low ... since they are running past you. People just need to respect and try to accommodate each other. </div><div dir="auto"><h2 style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px 0px;padding:16px 0px 0px;font-family:"Pragati Narrow",Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:32px;line-height:1.15;color:rgb(51,51,51)">A runner just snuck up on me, passing by and completely ignoring the 6-foot rule... can I get the virus this way if they are infected?</h2><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:16px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-family:Barlow,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18px;line-height:1.58;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Morse was <a href="https://www.wnyc.org/story/can-you-catch-covid-19-cardboard-box" rel="noopener" target="_blank" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-bottom-style:none;text-underline-position:under;font-family:Barlow,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">on the Brian Lehrer Show today</a>, and actually answered this there. He said if someone passes you within a few feet, instead of six, "The risk is going to increase if someone has the infection, and with the amount of time you may be near them... if they're coughing or sneezing in your direction and are infected and you are close, then you have a better chance of getting infected. People who are just walking or running by, the chances are if they are not coughing or sneezing at that moment you have a very low likelihood of getting infected. Nothing is ever completely without risk, but probably for most people it's going to be very low risk. Be careful, but these very short encounters are not likely to be major sources of spread."</p></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="https://gothamist.com/news/we-asked-epidemiologist-our-most-pressing-coronavirus-questions">https://gothamist.com/news/we-asked-epidemiologist-our-most-pressing-coronavirus-questions</a></div><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:35 PM Tim Dube <<a href="mailto:timothydube@gmail.com">timothydube@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div dir="auto">I think that’s fair. I also think runners out during the day should use the bike lanes where available. There aren’t a lot of cars so bikes can safely pass in the travel lane. (I say this as a runner and biker.) </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:26 PM James Grimaldi <<a href="mailto:jamesvgrimaldi@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamesvgrimaldi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">It is simply untrue that you cannot get the virus while walking past someone. You most certainly can, although it is unlikely. While sunlight likely kills the virus and it is harder to contract from a jogger outdoors, a six-foot standard distance is recommended even for runners. <a href="https://www.today.com/health/can-i-run-outside-during-coronavirus-it-ok-go-walk-t176256" target="_blank">https://www.today.com/health/can-i-run-outside-during-coronavirus-it-ok-go-walk-t176256</a> In fact, at one point, jogging was banned in <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/21/818971466/despite-lockdown-italys-coronavirus-cases-continue-dramatic-climb" target="_blank">Italy</a>, Spain and <a href="https://www.rt.com/news/483893-france-ban-jogging-coronavirus/" target="_blank">France</a> to prevent the spread. <div>The six-foot standard is not being maintained by wheezing, hacking, spitting joggers cluelessly running around Lincoln Park, so it might be best just to avoid the park. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:07 PM Mia Grosjean <<a href="mailto:mia@miagrosjean.com" target="_blank">mia@miagrosjean.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>Thanks John. Still think the part <i>“and has no entry into the patient’s room” </i>is a bit…. I just think that for those of us who ARE compromised (I have had pneumonia 3 times over the years and have been told NOT to get it again) the 6 feet standard is a good as well as easy standard to judge and maintain. We are all balancing on the weakest link right now and without over analyzing it, I’ll maintain the six foot standard and hope the rest of our wonderful community will as well. Onward. Mia <br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">John Hirschmann <<a href="mailto:hirschj154@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">hirschj154@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><b style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Re: [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park</b><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">March 25, 2020 at 1:49:30 PM EDT<br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank" style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info</a><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank" style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif">lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info</a><br></span></div><br><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:myriad-pro,Helvetica,Arial,"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:18px"><br></span></div><span style="font-family:myriad-pro,Helvetica,Arial,"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:18px"><div style="font-family:myriad-pro,Helvetica,Arial,"Open Sans",sans-serif"><span style="font-family:myriad-pro,Helvetica,Arial,"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:18px">The AMA has posted the following guidance for medical personel under section on „Brief interaction with a Patient“</span></div><div style="font-family:myriad-pro,Helvetica,Arial,"Open Sans",sans-serif"><span style="font-family:myriad-pro,Helvetica,Arial,"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:18px"><br></span></div>If a physician or other health professional walks by a patient with COVID-19, has no direct contact with the patient or their secretions and excretions, and has no entry into the patient’s room, there is no identifiable risk. In this instance, no monitoring or work restrictions are needed. </span><br><br>While not directly addressing your question, I think it’s relevant </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">John<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>John F <span style="font-size:13pt">Hirschmann </span></div><div><a href="mailto:hirschj154@gmail.com" target="_blank">hirschj154@gmail.com</a></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 25, 2020, at 13:21, Diana Quinn <<a href="mailto:dqquinn@gmail.com" target="_blank">dqquinn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Mia- contacting you privately</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:16 PM Mia Grosjean <<a href="mailto:mia@miagrosjean.com" target="_blank">mia@miagrosjean.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Thanks Diane, but if you don’t mind could you cite your sources please? <div>Mia<br><br><div dir="ltr">From Mia's iPhone </div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Diana Quinn <<a href="mailto:dqquinn@gmail.com" target="_blank">dqquinn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">As I understand it, you should be able to run by someone, or have someone run by you, without being in trouble. It's prolonged contact for 3 minutes or more when it is supposed to become a problem.<div><br></div><div>dq</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mia Grosjean <<a href="mailto:mia@miagrosjean.com" target="_blank">mia@miagrosjean.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>Dear neighbors, I just took a walk around Lincoln Park "social distancing" my way around and had three people run past me with less than three feet between us. Can we Please Please be more conscious about spacing when taking our walks. <div>With thanks, Mia </div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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