[Lincolnparkdc] [neighbors-ch] [The Washington Post] Washingtonians want Commanders to return to D.C., Post-Schar School poll finds

Wed May 22 16:20:42 EDT 2024

I tell you what.  We can agonize or celebrate all we want about RFK becoming the site of a major stadium, the likes of which Taylor Swift will perform and the Commanders call home.  

It’s a given.  It’s just not YET played out in real time.

And I’m with you, Mark.  I’d like a drive through car wash. I hope those living over Splash are happy. 

> On May 22, 2024, at 4:03 PM, James Grimaldi <jamesvgrimaldi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This Washington Post-Schar School poll was conducted by telephone April 19-29, 2024, among a random sample of 1,683 adult residents in the Washington, D.C. area with 81 percent interviewed by live callers, including 60 percent on cellphones and 21 percent on landlines; 19 percent completed the survey online via a cellphone text invitation. Overall results for the D.C. area have a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points, including design effects due to weighting. The survey interviewed 655 adults in D.C., 522 in Northern Virginia and 506 in suburban Maryland; the error margin for results in each subregion is plus or minus 5.1 to 5.7 percentage points. Sampling, field work and data processing by Braun Research of Princeton, N.J.  <https://www.braunresearch.com/>
> 
> Clearly, the Post should have hired the Ugoretz polling firm, as it has vastly more experience in polling matters, apparently 
> 
> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 3:45 PM Mark Ugoretz <mugoretz at gmail.com <mailto:mugoretz at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Instead of subsidizing a football team, I would prefer DC subsidize a drive through car wash on Capitol Hill.
> ________________________
> Mark Ugoretz
> 1000 Massachusetts Ave. NE
> Washington, DC 20002
> mugoretz at gmail.com <mailto:mugoretz at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Sanju Misra <sanjumisra at gmail.com <mailto:sanjumisra at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have not read it.  But if Mark's description is accurate, then what a meaningless poll.  Poll DC taxpayers only and specifically ask if they are willing to have tax dollars used to build a stadium for a billionaire.  My response would be "Absolutely not!"
>> 
>> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:23 AM Mark Ugoretz <mugoretz at gmail.com <mailto:mugoretz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Kind of a dumb article that misapprehends support for public financing and increase taxes and city service fees.
>> 
>> It contends that 76% of DC residents support the team returning to DC but suggests also that most of these are “fans” which raises. the question of who actually was polled.
>> 
>> It also claims that 
>> "City residents are now more open to public funding of a stadium. In 2022, two-thirds of D.C. residents opposed using city funds to help finance a new stadium in the District; now residents are split on the issue.”  
>> However, it does not indicate how many residents are willing to pay for the stadium through a tax increase, higher city “service fees” and other revenue raisers, merely that fewer residents oppose “public funding” which generally means no tax increases and get the money from somebody else.
>> 
>> The poll only sampled a little over 1,600 residents from the entire DMV area not just DC.  Only 655 DC residents out of 700,000 were polled with a margin of error of over 5%. That’s a minimal sample and an excessive margin of error and probably worthless.
>> 
>> The article also contends that "Last year, 44 percent wanted it in the city. This year, it has grown to 51 percent” but that’s only a 7% increase and the article does not state whether the earlier polling included a greater sample than the minimalist sample noted here.  If one applies the polls admitted 5% margin of error the conclusion is inconclusive.
>> 
>> I suggest a poll of a very substantially higher sampling of DC residents asked question of whether they would support public financing to subsidize the return of the Commanders to the RFK site if it meant an increase in taxes or city service fees spread among all income groups (taxing the rich doesn’t bring in enough money - there are not enough billionaires.)
>> 
>> To properly analyze this issue of public financing, I suggest the mantra popular during consideration of the 1986 tax reform act, the last major comprehensive tax reform enacted:  “Don’t tax me.  Don’t tax thee.”  Tax that fellow behind the tree."
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________
>> Mark Ugoretz
>> 1000 Massachusetts Ave. NE
>> Washington, DC 20002
>> mugoretz at gmail.com <mailto:mugoretz at gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2024, at 9:56 AM, James Grimaldi <jamesvgrimaldi at gmail.com <mailto:jamesvgrimaldi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check out this article:
>>> 
>>> Support for a new stadium in Washington is higher among Commanders fans and District residents.
>>> https://wapo.st/3wKUE56 <https://wapo.st/3wKUE56>
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Neighbors" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neighbors-ch+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com <mailto:neighbors-ch%2Bunsubscribe at googlegroups.com>.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neighbors-ch/08DEE0AF-DB7A-4BBC-B6CE-4AFCF5CCB654%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neighbors-ch/08DEE0AF-DB7A-4BBC-B6CE-4AFCF5CCB654%40gmail.com>.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Neighbors" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neighbors-ch+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com <mailto:neighbors-ch+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com>.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neighbors-ch/F54AC01F-7DB3-489E-92B5-E384E0177D5B%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neighbors-ch/F54AC01F-7DB3-489E-92B5-E384E0177D5B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> LincolnParkDC mailing list
> 
> To post to the list address your message to: LincolnParkDC at lincolnparkdc.info
> When replying, please consider whether to reply to the sender only, or to the list, which is the default.
> Not all replies are appropriate for the entire list.
> 
> Please do not send administrative requests to the list. Please click on the following link to
> switch to digest mode, change your password, or otherwise manage your subscription:
> https://vps.woteki.com/mailman/listinfo/lincolnparkdc_lincolnparkdc.info
> 
> If you need assistance managing your subscription, please address your request to: towncrier at lincolnparkdc.info
> Please do not address assistance requests to the list. Thank you for your cooperation.

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lincolnparkdc.info/pipermail/lincolnparkdc_lincolnparkdc.info/attachments/20240522/77cfe3fb/attachment.htm>