<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">I tell you what.  We can agonize or celebrate all we want about RFK becoming the site of a major stadium, the likes of which Taylor Swift will perform and the Commanders call home.  </span><div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">It’s a given.  It’s just not YET played out in real time.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class="">And I’m with you, Mark.  I’d like a drive through car wash. I hope those living over Splash are happy. </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 22, 2024, at 4:03 PM, James Grimaldi <<a href="mailto:jamesvgrimaldi@gmail.com" class="">jamesvgrimaldi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">This Washington Post-Schar School poll was conducted by telephone April 19-29, 2024,
among a random sample of 1,683 adult residents in the Washington, D.C. area with 81
percent interviewed by live callers, including 60 percent on cellphones and 21 percent
on landlines; 19 percent completed the survey online via a cellphone text invitation.
Overall results for the D.C. area have a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2
percentage points, including design effects due to weighting. The survey interviewed
655 adults in D.C., 522 in Northern Virginia and 506 in suburban Maryland; the error
margin for results in each subregion is plus or minus 5.1 to 5.7 percentage points.
Sampling, field work and data processing by <a href="https://www.braunresearch.com/" class="">Braun Research of Princeton, N.J. </a><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Clearly, the Post should have hired the Ugoretz polling firm, as it has vastly more experience in polling matters, apparently </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 3:45 PM Mark Ugoretz <<a href="mailto:mugoretz@gmail.com" class="">mugoretz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Instead of subsidizing a football team, I would prefer DC subsidize a drive through car wash on Capitol Hill.<br id="m_4245778525555587032lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage" class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 22, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Sanju Misra <<a href="mailto:sanjumisra@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">sanjumisra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I have not read it.  But if Mark's description is accurate, then what a meaningless poll.  Poll DC taxpayers only and specifically ask if they are willing to have tax dollars used to build a stadium for a billionaire.  My response would be "Absolutely not!"</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:23 AM Mark Ugoretz <<a href="mailto:mugoretz@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mugoretz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Kind of a dumb article that misapprehends support for public financing and increase taxes and city service fees.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It contends that 76% of DC residents support the team returning to DC but suggests also that most of these are “fans” which raises. the question of who actually was polled.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica" class="">It also claims that </font></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class=""><font face="Helvetica" class="">"<font color="#2a2a2a" class="">City residents are now more open to public funding of a stadium. In 2022, two-thirds of D.C. residents opposed using city funds to help finance a new stadium in the District; now residents are split on the issue.”  </font></font></div></blockquote><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class="">However, it does not indicate how many residents are willing to pay for the stadium through a tax increase, higher city “service fees” and other revenue raisers, merely that fewer residents oppose <span class="">“</span>public funding” which generally means no tax increases and get the money from somebody else.</font><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class="">The poll only sampled a little over 1,600 residents from the entire DMV area not just DC.  <u class="">Only 655 DC residents out of 700,000 were polled </u>with a margin of error of over 5%. That’s a minimal sample and an excessive margin of error and probably worthless.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica" class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" class="">The article also contends that "</font><span style="color:rgb(42,42,42)" class="">Last year, 44 percent wanted it in the city. This year</span><span style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(42,42,42)" class="">, </span><font color="#2a2a2a" class="">it has grown to 51 percent” but that’s only a 7% increase and the article does not state whether the earlier polling included a greater sample than the minimalist sample noted here.  If one applies the polls admitted 5% margin of error the conclusion is inconclusive.</font></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica" class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" class=""><br class=""></font></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica" class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" class="">I suggest a poll of a very substantially higher sampling of DC residents asked question of whether they would <u class="">support public financing to subsidize the return of the Commanders to the RFK site if it meant an increase in taxes or city service fees</u> spread among all income groups (taxing the rich doesn’t bring in enough money - there are not enough </font></font><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class=""><span class="">billionaires.)</span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class="">To properly analyze this issue of public financing, I suggest the mantra popular during consideration of the 1986 tax reform act, the last major comprehensive tax reform enacted:  <i class="">“Don’t </i><i class="">tax me.  Don’t tax thee.”  Tax that fellow behind the tree."</i></font></div><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Helvetica" class=""><br class=""></font><div class=""><div class="">
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