[Lincolnparkdc] Misplaced Scooters

Mon Mar 14 13:18:27 EDT 2022

I am definitely not assuming that all scooter riders are following the
rules, just as I don’t assume car drivers are always following the rules
either. I was only stating what the rules are so people could better
understand why they might be attached to a metal tree box railing. I do
wish more scooter users would ride with more care around people using
sidewalks, and stay in the streets as much as possible. I wish they
wouldn’t sometimes lock to a tree or block a handicapped ramp.

Regarding the “misplaced hubris” criticism, I stand by my comment but I’ll
clarify a little more about what I meant:

  We all live in a city, which by definition is a place with a higher
density land use for housing and commercial uses but also with lots of
publicly owed space (roads, parks, sidewalks) which are used by all
residents, travelers, visitors. The public transportation networks
(streets, sidewalks, paths) in a city must be equitably allocated for use
by all travelers. Not just the person who lives directly adjacent to it.
Decisions are made for the greater good of all city residents who may
travel through our corridors. Not just one person or a group of people who
live right there. How far would we get if one person could veto anything
that was planned for the public transportation network in front of their
house?

If you would like definitive control over the space in front of their house
you can find a place where there are *fewer people who also need to use it*.
That’s not to say you might be able to prevent a road widening project
taking some of the right of way in front of your house, just that it’s more
likely it wouldn’t be needed because you live on a large lot with far fewer
people. But also, you’d have your own dedicated place to park at your front
door that no one could take away, would never have to look at scooters in
front, or share a vehicle lane with a bicyclist in a bike lane.

Gina A

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:03 PM Sharon Raimo <sharonbraimo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well there is one on the island on Kentucky that has been there for days
> and is attached to nothing. The ones in front of my house have never been
> anchored to anything despite a street light that is situated right there. I
> get that it is not a car and I am glad for that but to assume that people
> are always following the rules and not leaving scooters just dumped on
> their sides any old place is naive at best.
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:26 AM <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As I mentioned, sometimes that’s not possible now with the requirement
>> that they be locked to a sign or other item of street furniture *at the
>> curb*.
>>
>> In my experience the scooters aren’t in any one location for very long.
>> Also every person in a scooter is not in a car parking in front of your
>> house. A reminder that we live in the city and all that space in front of
>> your house is public space. If folks want more control over what goes in
>> front of their house a city is probably not the place to demand that.
>>
>> Gina
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 11:24 PM, Barbara Meierhoefer <bmeierhoefer at me.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It would be nice if those you having fun on scooters would leave them to
>> clutter the sidewalk in front of wherever it is you are ending your fun
>> journey instead of in front of my house. I know you’ve a right, but it’s
>> very intrusive, unsightly, and not very neighborly.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:02 PM, regina arlotto <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Since so many people were ending their rides and leaving the scooters in
>> the middle of the sidewalk, DDOT required vendors to require users to lock
>> them to something at the curb, in the hopes it would keep them from
>> impeding pedestrian travel.  At the end of the ride, users have to lock the
>> bike and take a photo of the locked location, which is automatically
>> uploaded in the app. These photos are reviewed, and if a photo is not taken
>> or the scooter is shown locked to something not acceptable, the user is
>> fined.
>>
>> I know that they are not supposed to be locked to trees, but a metal tree
>> box is probably ok, since it is public space and out of the middle of the
>> sidewalk. Ideally they would be locked at a bike rack in a corral at the
>> end of the street, but a lot of those are being opposed in neighborhoods,
>> even though they are not taking a parking spot. They're just at the end of
>> the block. Scooters are an increasingly popular mode of transportation, and
>> they're fun to ride too.
>>
>> Gina Arlotto
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 11:55 AM Paul Krupa <paul.krupa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Page
>>> The scooters are a service. They are left randomly throughout the
>>> kingdom to provide rides to anyone with an account and to decorate the
>>> neighbor with modernist junk like sculpture.
>>> Unfortunately they are locked too and alarm when attempting to move.  I
>>> do not believe locking to a tree box is a legitimate method and I would
>>> complain to the vendor and the city and our local representative. I would
>>> expect them to move it.
>>> I am sure or at least hopeful we will learn the ground rules here
>>> shortly.
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
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