[Lincolnparkdc] Need Speed Camera at 17th + A SE

Marche Maine markrichardgrace at gmail.com
Tue Aug 10 16:20:22 EDT 2021


Don't know how others feel but I do not want any additional plastic cartoon
characters cluttering the neighborhood.  It would quickly start to look
like a toddlers backyard. I do want a cohesive, respectful traffic calming
solution. I do not think that it is crying to the city agency responsible
for this. It is a minimum expectation.

There exists now a DDOT petition to sign: https://www.neighbors4ncave.com
Please consider signing.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 3:46 PM Martha Huizenga <martha at mhuizenga.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tim and Peter.
> Also another approach that we should be working towards is asking the
> police to always stop at the crosswalks. I don't know how many times I've
> stood at 12th St to cross East Capitol and a cop drives right by without
> stopping. If the cops don't stop then no one else will either. As Tim said,
> it's a whole community effort. Show them we are watching and that we care.
> ---
> Martha Huizenga
> cell 703-626-4026
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 3:38 PM Tim Dube <timothydube at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What I'm taking from the 13th/NC and now this 17th/A series is that we
>> haven't made it clear to passers-through that we all just want to take care
>> of each other. One community-oriented option is one of the $20 fluorescent
>> yellow kids with red hats at all the troubled spots we keep identifying in
>> our echo chamber. There are fluorescent yellow dogs too. I find that
>> picking mine up and swinging it when a car is rolling through the 12th/Indy
>> intersection effectively shames at least that oncoming car to stop. I
>> recommend weighing the objects down with gravel or sand or else they walk
>> away.
>>
>> Some cities have "crossing flags" at tough intersections with a bucket on
>> either end. I don't like that it puts the onus on the pedestrian to make
>> cars comply, but at least it's very visible, unlike a dog or kid below eye
>> level walking in front of you. They and the yellow guys make clear to
>> passers-through that *we* are paying attention and don't have to cry to the
>> Police or DDOT to keep our streets safe. Just another angle to consider.
>> I'm happy to set up a fund to buy up these fluorescent yellow things in
>> bulk if folks want to have a sand-stuffing party activity at the block
>> party in October?
>>
>>
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>>>    1. Need Speed Camera at 17th + A SE (Christopher Szczypinski)
>>>    2. Re: North Lincoln Park project: Reply from DDOT official
>>>       (Lucia DiVenere)
>>>    3. Re: Need Speed Camera at 17th + A SE (Lucia DiVenere)
>>>    4. Re: Need Speed Camera at 17th + A SE (Ruslan Ternovyi)
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>>> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:27:56 -0400
>>> From: Christopher Szczypinski <christophereszc at gmail.com>
>>> To: lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>> Subject: [Lincolnparkdc] Need Speed Camera at 17th + A SE
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>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how we can get a speed camera or stop sign put up at
>>> 17th + A SE?
>>>
>>> I don't know if any of you walk this way but there is a crosswalk with a
>>> pedestrian sign and 99% of cars blow right through it. If you walked out
>>> in
>>> front of them you'd get killed.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what can be done?
>>>
>>> Chris
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>>> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:29:20 -0400
>>> From: Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Handsfield, Will (DDOT)" <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>,
>>>         lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>> Subject: Re: [Lincolnparkdc] North Lincoln Park project: Reply from
>>>         DDOT official
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>>> Thanks Tom.  Will, how many parking spots would be lost w the one way
>>> option and where would they be lost from? Specifics please.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 2:23 PM Tom Woteki <drwo at woteki.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > All:
>>> >
>>> > I?m forwarding this reply from Will Handsfield who is at DDOT. He
>>> > attempted to post his reply to the list, but he is not a subscriber.
>>> For
>>> > this of you who were on the Zoom call last year about the Kentucky Ave
>>> > project, this is the same person who was on that call.
>>> >
>>> > Town Crier
>>> >
>>> > *From: *"Handsfield, Will (DDOT)" <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>
>>> > *Subject: **RE: [Lincolnparkdc] DDOT north lincoln park project*
>>> > *Date: *August 9, 2021 at 3:09:20 PM EDT
>>> > *To: *John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>, "
>>> > lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info" <lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>> > *Cc: *"Arlotto, Regina (DDOT)" <Regina.Arlotto at dc.gov>, "Gove, Amber
>>> (SMD
>>> > 6A04)" <6A04 at anc.dc.gov>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just to clarify, only the options that retain a 2-way travel pattern
>>> for
>>> > vehicles would remove the 35 parking spaces, and those options would
>>> not
>>> > divert any traffic.  If DDOT selects a one-way travel pattern, it will
>>> > allow for parking on both sides of the street, but will divert the
>>> current
>>> > eastbound NC traffic.  From our model, the diverted traffic up 13th and
>>> > onto East Capital is about 600 cars per day, with the biggest bubble of
>>> > that being at the 5 PM hour, with about 60 extra turning onto East
>>> Capitol,
>>> > and 60 continuing up 13th to turn at Constitution.  Just to give a
>>> sense
>>> > of magnitude, that is 1 additional car per minute.  In DDOT?s
>>> understanding
>>> > of traffic issues, these are VERY small changes to existing volumes,
>>> and
>>> > can easily be absorbed on these two streets.
>>> >
>>> > *From:* John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>>> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 5, 2021 2:00 PM
>>> > *To:* lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>> > *Cc:* Arlotto, Regina (DDOT) <Regina.Arlotto at dc.gov>; Handsfield, Will
>>> > (DDOT) <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>; Gove, Amber (SMD 6A04) <
>>> > 6A04 at anc.dc.gov>
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Lincolnparkdc] DDOT north lincoln park project
>>> >
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>>> > ?
>>> >  ?
>>> > Marche?
>>> > ?
>>> > ?I agree with your concern about losing about 35 parking spaces as it
>>> will
>>> > clearly impact many neighboring blocks as people have to look further
>>> for
>>> > parking. There likely will be secondary and tertiary responses as
>>> people
>>> > have to look further to find a parking space. It will also expose all
>>> to
>>> > increased risk of exposure to crime (which is unfortunately on the
>>> rise)
>>> > and create added challenges to those with mobility issues.
>>> >
>>> > However, I disagree how the traffic will probably divert. Those headed
>>> for
>>> > Tennessee will continue as in the past. Those headed farther east will
>>> more
>>> > like turn earlier at East Cap and then turn left at either 15th or
>>> 19th to
>>> > get to C street NE and the RFK fields, etc
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> > John F Hirschmann
>>> > hirschj154 at gmail.com
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 4, 2021, at 13:51, Marche Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ?
>>> > DDOT removing the right hand turn lane of 13th Street and North
>>> Carolina
>>> > Ave. N.E. would force all east-bound traffic further north to the
>>> > Constitution / 13th St. intersection, directly in front of Maury
>>> > elementary. Moreover, the removal of 35 parking spaces on the south
>>> side of
>>> > North Carolina Ave. does not remove 35 cars from the road. Also, it
>>> forces
>>> > 35 residents to compete with neighboring streets and neighbors for
>>> parking
>>> > spots. This is particularly dangerous now that the city has not been
>>> able
>>> > to curb the violence and street crime in the neighborhood.  It is also
>>> a
>>> > burden for those with mobility issues who will have to walk blocks to
>>> their
>>> > homes.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 1:34 PM Tim Dube <timothydube at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > The proposal is to put in conforming bike lanes like those that exist
>>> > around LP from the NW and SE (Mass Ave) and SW (North Carolina Ave)
>>> corners
>>> > so that the NE (North Carolina to C St) corner is a connected bikeway
>>> to
>>> > RFK Stadium/The Fields via C St. This is long overdue, as the flyer
>>> says.
>>> > That two-block stretch of NC to Constitution/15th is nonconforming and
>>> too
>>> > narrow compared to the other 3 safer corners. However, DDOT should not
>>> slow
>>> > down. I support this project post haste and urge my neighbors to, too.
>>> > These lanes can serve as a critical connection between the LP
>>> community and
>>> > the Kingman Park community. This project would directly and positively
>>> > benefit Maury, Miner, Elliott-Hine, Appletree 12th, Kingman Academy,
>>> > Appletree Oklahoma, and Eastern families with safer routes to school,
>>> not
>>> > to mention the several in-home daycares in the NE area.
>>> >
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:33:15 -0400
>>> From: Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com>
>>> To: Charles Allen <Charles at charlesallenward6.com>,  "Handsfield, Will
>>>         (DDOT)" <William.Handsfield2 at dc.gov>, "Holtzman, Steve (SMD
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>>> Chris, this is a good example of why ddot, included on this email, should
>>> focus on areas of need, instead of intruding on areas that are fine.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 2:30 PM Christopher Szczypinski <
>>> christophereszc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know how we can get a speed camera or stop sign put up at
>>> > 17th + A SE?
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if any of you walk this way but there is a crosswalk with
>>> a
>>> > pedestrian sign and 99% of cars blow right through it. If you walked
>>> out in
>>> > front of them you'd get killed.
>>> >
>>> > Any ideas what can be done?
>>> >
>>> > Chris
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>>> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:03:46 -0400
>>> From: Ruslan Ternovyi <ruslanternovy at gmail.com>
>>> To: lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
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>>> Somebody has complained about the same about a year ago and they sent an
>>> officer to check it.
>>>
>>> I was able to talk to that officer (officer Robinson) asking him about
>>> cameras. The officer said: "people in the neighborhood need to start with
>>> 311 number. More people call - more probability that the government will
>>> put a camera to control that.
>>>
>>> I used to walk my dog crossing that intersection and completely agree
>>> that
>>> there are times when the drivers simply don't notice pedestrians who wait
>>> to cross the street.
>>>
>>> Also there is a sign there that says about a fine of $500 for not stoping
>>> in front of the crossing pedestrians doesn't scare them, even though the
>>> actual fine is no more than $250 according to the officer Robinson.
>>>
>>> Ruslan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 2:30 PM Christopher Szczypinski <
>>> christophereszc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know how we can get a speed camera or stop sign put up at
>>> > 17th + A SE?
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if any of you walk this way but there is a crosswalk with
>>> a
>>> > pedestrian sign and 99% of cars blow right through it. If you walked
>>> out in
>>> > front of them you'd get killed.
>>> >
>>> > Any ideas what can be done?
>>> >
>>> > Chris
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