[Lincolnparkdc] Final plans

Fri Apr 9 21:45:10 EDT 2021

And thank you for pointing out the MISINFORMATION that is  presented as
fact.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:44 PM Diana Quinn <dqquinn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also agree 100% with John. Well said, John. Thank you.
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 1:47 PM Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 100% agree w John.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 11:32 AM John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Regina
>>>
>>> I think we all agree our objective to maximize public safety. We
>>> disagree on how best to achieve that. The mission of DDOT is to focus on
>>> the safety of pedestrians and bicyclists.  It does NOT include minimizing
>>> the risk of being the victim of street crime. That is MPD‘s responsibility
>>> and therefore DDOT apparently chooses to not think about it since it is
>>> outside its mission.
>>>
>>> We also proposed ways to have Advisory Bike Lanes without the need to
>>> loose so many parking paces, but this did not get considered by DDOT.
>>>
>>> I have asked Cdr Kane of 1D MPD twice for their data on incidents of
>>> street crime versus pedestrian/bicyclists injuries. So far she has not
>>> responded to those requests.
>>>
>>> You cited two recent tragic accidents to illustrate your point. In doing
>>> so, you did NOT choose to mention that there had been an armed robbery in
>>> the 100 block of Kentucky in mid-March and several other street crimes in
>>> adjoining blocks recently. I consider this a much more imminent threat.
>>>
>>> As tragic as the accidents you mention were, I don’t see its relevance
>>> to installing Advisory Bike Lanes on Kentucky Avenue.  The accident at 14th
>>> and C NE involved an intersection with both streets already being one-way
>>> with a single auto traffic lane and bike lanes already included on both
>>> streets. The intersection Is also controlled by a traffic light. Given
>>> that, I don’t think the kids were just partially at fault, I think they
>>> were totally at fault. Certainly lowering the legal speed limit to 20 MPH
>>> didn’t help, since it was clearly not being obeyed.
>>>
>>> The death of a 4 year old off Georgia Avenue was described very
>>> differently in last Friday‘s Washington Post.  They report the accident did
>>> not occur at a
>>> crosswalk and the car was going straight across Georgia, rather than
>>> turning.
>>>
>>> Much of what your raising really is addressing is whether our traffic
>>> laws are being effectively enforced. Other than by automated devices, I see
>>> essentially no such activity. There is now discussion of taking this
>>> responsibility from MPD, but I’ve seen no discussion of who would assume it
>>> or how well it would be funded.
>>>
>>> The new advisory bike lanes requirement whole new protocols of how and
>>> when bicyclists and motorists should yield to each other, including in
>>> particular when cars going in opposite directions now need to share some of
>>> same space in the street.  But I’ve seen absolutely NO effort to educate
>>> the public on how the various lanes are to be shared under various
>>> scenarios.  Without that, I think the probability of a serious accident
>>> occurring goes up significantly, either a car hitting a bicyclist or cars
>>> going in opposite directions Meeting head-on.
>>>
>>> DDOT made a commitment in writing to the Federal Highway Administration
>>> to get approval for this project to educate the public prior to its
>>> implementation about the concept and how bicyclists and drivers should
>>> behave. This is despite the fact advisory bike lanes have been in place on
>>> E Street SE for about six months. I would certainly think given DDOT’s
>>> interest in our safety, this would have happened well before now.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John F Hirschmann
>>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 09:35, regina arlotto <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Wow. Nice neighborly sentiment Diana. FYI we can't be fired when we are
>>> just doing our job implementing the laws of the city to improve safety for
>>> all PUBLIC road users. That means people who walk, ride a bike, a scooter,
>>> jog in the street or push a baby in a stroller. The PUBLIC roads are not
>>> JUST for storing your car until you decide to use it. That is just a fact.
>>>
>>> *A four year old boy was killed by a right turning car driver *while in
>>> the crosswalk with the light on Friday April 2.* A young father and
>>> HIll neighbor was killed on Easter Sunday *by kids who stole a car and
>>> were speeding running red lights. Both cars actually ended up hitting my
>>> co-worker Will Handfield's house. One car caught on fire, the other in his
>>> window. Now you may think well that's the fault of the kids. Which partly,
>>> it is. BUT the fact is that our streets all over the city were built for
>>> speed, so commuters could get in and out of the city as fast as possible.
>>> We know now that these designs are dangerous and deadly no matter the
>>> reason a car is able to drive fast and kill people. *We at DDOT are
>>> working every day to prevent these tragic accidents BEFORE they happen.*
>>>
>>> This is not a haphazard, ridiculous or faulty effort of spending. In
>>> fact, it is one of the most cost-effective things we can do to make our
>>> roads safer.
>>>
>>> I am very disappointed that you would suggest we be fired for doing our
>>> job, upholding the law, and trying to prevent crashes that cause deaths of
>>> other drivers, bicyclists and children walking. I'm proud of the work that
>>> we do. I absolutely do not mind losing a few parking spaces so that we can
>>> see more easily around a crosswalk. I'd rather not hit a person because I
>>> can't see them.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Gina Arlotto, AICP
>>> Transportation Planner DDOT
>>> 123 Kentucky Ave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 12:04 AM Diana Quinn <dqquinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Steve, you're being facetious, right?   There are no criteria for
>>>> success. There is no plan. There is no website.
>>>> This is a haphazard, ridiculous, faulty effort to spend money without
>>>> thinking.
>>>> The people behind this should be fired.
>>>> How can we help to GET them fired?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 10:24 PM Peter Barclay <barclaypj at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve, thanks for sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you also share what the criteria for success are and the base data
>>>>> points used? If there’s a website with this info , please advise.  And
>>>>> lastly, what is the evaluation period for this test?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any info on next steps would be appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>> - Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 21:25, Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Holtzman, 6B05
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>>> behalf of Margaret Rafferty <mhrafferty at hotmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 7:58 PM
>>>>> *To:* hirschj154 at gmail.com <hirschj154 at gmail.com>; Kentucky List
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>>>>> *Subject:* [Lincolnparkdc] Final plans
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>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> Will you please forward the final plans? I can’t find them. Don’t
>>>>> think Holtzman sent them out to the list serve. I want them to show to
>>>>> whoever shows up tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your all you’ve done to prevent this fiasco.
>>>>>
>>>>> Margaret
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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