[Lincolnparkdc] Final plans

Diana Quinn dqquinn at gmail.com
Fri Apr 9 21:44:24 EDT 2021 

I also agree 100% with John. Well said, John. Thank you.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 1:47 PM Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com>
wrote:

> 100% agree w John.
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 11:32 AM John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> 
>> Regina
>>
>> I think we all agree our objective to maximize public safety. We disagree
>> on how best to achieve that. The mission of DDOT is to focus on the safety
>> of pedestrians and bicyclists.  It does NOT include minimizing the risk of
>> being the victim of street crime. That is MPD‘s responsibility and
>> therefore DDOT apparently chooses to not think about it since it is outside
>> its mission.
>>
>> We also proposed ways to have Advisory Bike Lanes without the need to
>> loose so many parking paces, but this did not get considered by DDOT.
>>
>> I have asked Cdr Kane of 1D MPD twice for their data on incidents of
>> street crime versus pedestrian/bicyclists injuries. So far she has not
>> responded to those requests.
>>
>> You cited two recent tragic accidents to illustrate your point. In doing
>> so, you did NOT choose to mention that there had been an armed robbery in
>> the 100 block of Kentucky in mid-March and several other street crimes in
>> adjoining blocks recently. I consider this a much more imminent threat.
>>
>> As tragic as the accidents you mention were, I don’t see its relevance to
>> installing Advisory Bike Lanes on Kentucky Avenue.  The accident at 14th
>> and C NE involved an intersection with both streets already being one-way
>> with a single auto traffic lane and bike lanes already included on both
>> streets. The intersection Is also controlled by a traffic light. Given
>> that, I don’t think the kids were just partially at fault, I think they
>> were totally at fault. Certainly lowering the legal speed limit to 20 MPH
>> didn’t help, since it was clearly not being obeyed.
>>
>> The death of a 4 year old off Georgia Avenue was described very
>> differently in last Friday‘s Washington Post.  They report the accident did
>> not occur at a
>> crosswalk and the car was going straight across Georgia, rather than
>> turning.
>>
>> Much of what your raising really is addressing is whether our traffic
>> laws are being effectively enforced. Other than by automated devices, I see
>> essentially no such activity. There is now discussion of taking this
>> responsibility from MPD, but I’ve seen no discussion of who would assume it
>> or how well it would be funded.
>>
>> The new advisory bike lanes requirement whole new protocols of how and
>> when bicyclists and motorists should yield to each other, including in
>> particular when cars going in opposite directions now need to share some of
>> same space in the street.  But I’ve seen absolutely NO effort to educate
>> the public on how the various lanes are to be shared under various
>> scenarios.  Without that, I think the probability of a serious accident
>> occurring goes up significantly, either a car hitting a bicyclist or cars
>> going in opposite directions Meeting head-on.
>>
>> DDOT made a commitment in writing to the Federal Highway Administration
>> to get approval for this project to educate the public prior to its
>> implementation about the concept and how bicyclists and drivers should
>> behave. This is despite the fact advisory bike lanes have been in place on
>> E Street SE for about six months. I would certainly think given DDOT’s
>> interest in our safety, this would have happened well before now.
>>
>> John
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>> John F Hirschmann
>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 09:35, regina arlotto <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Wow. Nice neighborly sentiment Diana. FYI we can't be fired when we are
>> just doing our job implementing the laws of the city to improve safety for
>> all PUBLIC road users. That means people who walk, ride a bike, a scooter,
>> jog in the street or push a baby in a stroller. The PUBLIC roads are not
>> JUST for storing your car until you decide to use it. That is just a fact.
>>
>> *A four year old boy was killed by a right turning car driver *while in
>> the crosswalk with the light on Friday April 2.* A young father and HIll
>> neighbor was killed on Easter Sunday *by kids who stole a car and were
>> speeding running red lights. Both cars actually ended up hitting my
>> co-worker Will Handfield's house. One car caught on fire, the other in his
>> window. Now you may think well that's the fault of the kids. Which partly,
>> it is. BUT the fact is that our streets all over the city were built for
>> speed, so commuters could get in and out of the city as fast as possible.
>> We know now that these designs are dangerous and deadly no matter the
>> reason a car is able to drive fast and kill people. *We at DDOT are
>> working every day to prevent these tragic accidents BEFORE they happen.*
>>
>> This is not a haphazard, ridiculous or faulty effort of spending. In
>> fact, it is one of the most cost-effective things we can do to make our
>> roads safer.
>>
>> I am very disappointed that you would suggest we be fired for doing our
>> job, upholding the law, and trying to prevent crashes that cause deaths of
>> other drivers, bicyclists and children walking. I'm proud of the work that
>> we do. I absolutely do not mind losing a few parking spaces so that we can
>> see more easily around a crosswalk. I'd rather not hit a person because I
>> can't see them.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Gina Arlotto, AICP
>> Transportation Planner DDOT
>> 123 Kentucky Ave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 12:04 AM Diana Quinn <dqquinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve, you're being facetious, right?   There are no criteria for
>>> success. There is no plan. There is no website.
>>> This is a haphazard, ridiculous, faulty effort to spend money without
>>> thinking.
>>> The people behind this should be fired.
>>> How can we help to GET them fired?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 10:24 PM Peter Barclay <barclaypj at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve, thanks for sharing.
>>>>
>>>> Can you also share what the criteria for success are and the base data
>>>> points used? If there’s a website with this info , please advise.  And
>>>> lastly, what is the evaluation period for this test?
>>>>
>>>> Any info on next steps would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>> - Peter
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 21:25, Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>>
>>>>  Steve
>>>>
>>>> Steve Holtzman, 6B05
>>>>
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>>>> *Subject:* [Lincolnparkdc] Final plans
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>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> Will you please forward the final plans? I can’t find them. Don’t think
>>>> Holtzman sent them out to the list serve. I want them to show to whoever
>>>> shows up tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your all you’ve done to prevent this fiasco.
>>>>
>>>> Margaret
>>>>
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