<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Mark.  Agreed.  My only point was that bicyclists need to be as aware and as careful as automobile drivers.  Neither gets a free pass.  No intention to reopen old arguments. <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Mark Jordan <<a href="mailto:mark@markjordan.me" class="">mark@markjordan.me</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br clear="all" class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Before we begin to pull the scabs off of the wounds of the bike  lane debate, in tis case, none of us knows the facts.  Let's be thankful that it appears nobody was hurt.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I will use this as a lesson for my kids that they as bike riders need to be careful and I as a driver need to be careful because when cars and bikes collide, bad things happen.</div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:03 AM John Hirschmann <<a href="mailto:hirschj154@gmail.com" class="">hirschj154@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">I concur with Ed’s observation. I too frequently have seen many bicyclists come up Kentucky and then proceed to go west on East Cap AGAINST eastbound traffic. Recently eastbound traffic included MPD cruiser. Bicyclist realized criuser was no going to yield to him, gave up and instead headed north into Lincoln Park.<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">John F <span style="font-size:13pt" class="">Hirschmann </span></div><div class=""><a href="mailto:hirschj154@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">hirschj154@gmail.com</a></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 10, 2021, at 09:55, Edward Wendel <<a href="mailto:wendel.epw@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">wendel.epw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="">Has anyone thought the biker did not file a report because HE was responsible?  Certainly not saying that is always the case, but it does happen.  I live at 148 13th Street SE and frequently see bikers flying through the complicated intersection without slowing down as they interact with cars.</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Sent from my iPhone</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Mia Grosjean <<a href="mailto:mia@miagrosjean.com" target="_blank" class="">mia@miagrosjean.com</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Front bike tire was run over by back wheel of car.  You have to think about why that would have happened. Probably why biker didn’t want to report it. Mia</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">From Mia's iPhone </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Margaret Rafferty <<a href="mailto:mhrafferty@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mhrafferty@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Biker & car collided. Biker & bike knocked to ground. Biker did not file a police report or accept ambulance service. He (biker) & driver worked it out according to police who arrived on the scene. Bike is damaged & chained to sign @ corner of Ky. PolIce said it should be reported b/c of damaged bike (not rideable) but They cannot do anything unless police report is filed. If anyone knows biker please have him file police report. PolIce can’t act w/o report. If anyone knows biker please have him file police report. I heard, didn’t see, crash, took photos & headed out to an appointment. Several bystander but I don’t know them. I gave police my phone # & address when I returned from my appointment. Sorry for anything I left out. I’m occupied with another matter but took a few minutes to get this email out.  </span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Margaret Rafferty</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><IMG_5950.JPG></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><IMG_5952.JPG></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><IMG_5956.JPG></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Sent from my iPhone</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">LincolnParkDC mailing list</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">To post to the list address your message to: <a href="mailto:LincolnParkDC@lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank" class="">LincolnParkDC@lincolnparkdc.info</a></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">When replying, please consider whether to reply to the sender only, or to the list, which is the default.</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Not all replies are appropriate for the entire list.</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Please do not send administrative requests to the list. Please click on the following link to</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">switch to digest mode, change your password, or otherwise manage your subscription:</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="https://vps.woteki.com/mailman/listinfo/lincolnparkdc_lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank" class="">https://vps.woteki.com/mailman/listinfo/lincolnparkdc_lincolnparkdc.info</a></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">If you need assistance managing your subscription, please address your request to: <a href="mailto:towncrier@lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank" class="">towncrier@lincolnparkdc.info</a></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Please do not address assistance requests to the list. Thank you for your cooperation.</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">LincolnParkDC mail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