<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">More than a year ago, a local resident turned a vacant apartment building at the corner of Independence and 5th St. SE into an Airbnb with, I believe, eight units. It is, effectively, an unattended hotel and absolutely out of zoning. Complaints to DRCA resulted in nothing except a request that we conduct a documentary and surveillance investigation! The policy questions around Airbnbs are complicated, but I thought they are supposed to be settled by law and enforcement. Instead, as usual, we have developers doing whatever they hell they feel like. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 6:55 PM <<a href="mailto:lincolnparkdc-request@lincolnparkdc.info">lincolnparkdc-request@lincolnparkdc.info</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send lincolnparkdc mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 16:35:34 -0400<br>
From: Lynn Hart <<a href="mailto:lynnhart52@gmail.com" target="_blank">lynnhart52@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Does anyone know the current rules for Airbnb?s in our neighborhood?<br>
In our block we have a non-resident occupied 5 unit building that operates as an Airbnb and also uses city recycling. Is this legal?<br>
Thanks, Lynn<br>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 17:17:00 -0400<br>
From: Mia Grosjean <<a href="mailto:mia@miagrosjean.com" target="_blank">mia@miagrosjean.com</a>><br>
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no, as far as I know it is NOT legal. Airbnb?s should only be one room in an "occupied by homeowner" home but because no one says anything they get away with it. You should email our ANC person Steve Holtzman. I will add him to this email although I believe he keeps an eye on our list serve as well.<br>
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> On May 1, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Lynn Hart <<a href="mailto:lynnhart52@gmail.com" target="_blank">lynnhart52@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Does anyone know the current rules for Airbnb?s in our neighborhood?<br>
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Why not email Airbub direct with the complaint.?<br>
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> On May 1, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Lynn Hart <<a href="mailto:lynnhart52@gmail.com" target="_blank">lynnhart52@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Does anyone know the current rules for Airbnb?s in our neighborhood?<br>
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> Thanks, Lynn<br>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 22:34:41 +0000<br>
From: "Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05)" <<a href="mailto:6B05@anc.dc.gov" target="_blank">6B05@anc.dc.gov</a>><br>
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I'm pretty sure that has always been illegal. My understanding is that the new law was supposed to put everything in a nice, clearcut package that drew distinct lines and was enforceable. I believe the intention was actually to clarify and to carve out more definable sanction for the allowable owner-occupied short-term rental market in a murky legal environment where most everything was technically illegal.<br>
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Technically legal/illegal is one thing. Enforcement is another. Since the law was passed by Council in 2019, every few months I've asked DCRA what the status was since the law had to be codified into DC regulations, etc to come practically into force. Last time I checked a few months ago, that process, which initially was assumed to take several months, hadnt been fully completed/signed off on, etc. yet. Maybe it has by now. I'll check. If someone has better information at their fingertips, please chime and add/correct/amend.<br>
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Still, whatever....it is, I believe illegal. My suggestion is to report it on 311 or call DCRA directly. And let me know by email. Lynn, send me an email offline and give me the details.<br>
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no, as far as I know it is NOT legal. Airbnb?s should only be one room in an "occupied by homeowner" home but because no one says anything they get away with it. You should email our ANC person Steve Holtzman. I will add him to this email although I believe he keeps an eye on our list serve as well.<br>
Mia<br>
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On May 1, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Lynn Hart <<a href="mailto:lynnhart52@gmail.com" target="_blank">lynnhart52@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:lynnhart52@gmail.com" target="_blank">lynnhart52@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Does anyone know the current rules for Airbnb?s in our neighborhood?<br>
In our block we have a non-resident occupied 5 unit building that operates as an Airbnb and also uses city recycling. Is this legal?<br>
Thanks, Lynn<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 17:51:45 -0500 (CDT)<br>
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I tried that already sev years ago on a diff matter. AirB&B Is not on the side of neighborhoods and their local regulations. I am fine with one bedroom rented in a owner occupied home, but when a whole apartment or a building is being used with no home owner in sight it is a nightmare for neighbors. AND it?s Not fair to the neighbors!!!!!<br>
Mia <br>
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>> Does anyone know the current rules for Airbnb?s in our neighborhood?<br>
>> In our block we have a non-resident occupied 5 unit building that operates as an Airbnb and also uses city recycling. Is this legal?<br>
>> Thanks, Lynn<br>
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 22:54:41 +0000<br>
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And to be clear, I'm not saying 311 or DCRA will result in action. But things are changing a little. So, worth a try.<br>
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I tried that already sev years ago on a diff matter. AirB&B Is not on the side of neighborhoods and their local regulations. I am fine with one bedroom rented in a owner occupied home, but when a whole apartment or a building is being used with no home owner in sight it is a nightmare for neighbors. AND it?s Not fair to the neighbors!!!!!<br>
Mia<br>
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> On May 1, 2021, at 5:25 PM, Alice Hall <<a href="mailto:alicehall515@gmail.com" target="_blank">alicehall515@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ?Why not email Airbub direct with the complaint.?<br>
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>> On May 1, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Lynn Hart <<a href="mailto:lynnhart52@gmail.com" target="_blank">lynnhart52@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Does anyone know the current rules for Airbnb?s in our neighborhood?<br>
>> In our block we have a non-resident occupied 5 unit building that operates as an Airbnb and also uses city recycling. Is this legal?<br>
>> Thanks, Lynn<br>
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