<div dir="ltr">I was on a call with Will today and we were talking through reducing the number of flexposts with the design engineers by a lot. And yes, creating a permanent curb is infinitely more expensive, and flexiposts are just as effective in practice. That might be considered for a later phase of this project, which is a pilot project to gather data for the Fed Dept of Transportation and Fed Highways. <div><br></div><div>Gina A. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 6:34 PM Peter Barclay <<a href="mailto:barclaypj@gmail.com">barclaypj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">The may not be pylons, but they are posts that will definitely stand out and be unsightly. There will probably be 30-40, if not more, just in that intersection. <div><br><div><div>Why not put down an actual curb to outline the path that is permanent in the ground to truly separate the traffic from cars and pedestrians? This is what I have seen in Europe and it seems to work well there? Has that been considered? In that case, we may not need to make the paths as long and slow the cars down. </div><div><br></div><div>But I suppose it is a cost issue as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br><div dir="ltr">- Peter</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 16, 2020, at 16:04, <a href="mailto:citymom92@gmail.com" target="_blank">citymom92@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">No worries! I just didn’t want people thinking that pylons were going up. They’re typically orange and not very effective, though they are ugly! </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best, </div><div dir="ltr">Gina</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 16, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Sharon Raimo <<a href="mailto:SRaimo@stcoletta.org" target="_blank">SRaimo@stcoletta.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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over. So we’d have extremely bumpy roads if we wanted to effectively slow traffic. I’d much rather have flexposts to get car drivers to slow down and pay attention to all the kids and older folks trying to make their way across our streets. The Kentucky/Independence/13th
intersection is especially confusing and dangerous for people crossing. I think we’ll all be pleased with the resulting slower traffic. </div>
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Charles, We have grave concerns about the pylons proposed to create bike lanes on Kentucky Ave and 13th St SE. Not only are the hideous, they will not allow those of us who live near the corner of those streets and Independence Ave to park even temporarily
to drop off passengers or goods. Three of the corner houses are occupied by elderly widows and this will be crippling for them. All the residents near the corners are over 60. Parking on out streets is already a nightmare and we sometimes have to walk blocks
in the dark after finally locating a space. This is worse during times of street cleaning when we can only park on one side of Independence. Please do not let this go forward . It will reduce our property values and negatively impact our lives. Sharon Raimo<br>
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