<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Bryan,<div>Yes, we do have copper as it is visible entering the house. The big gain for us is the bump up from ⅝” to 1”.</div><div>Paul<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><!-- signature open -->Sent from my iPad<!-- signature close --></div><br><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 4, 2020, at 06:45, Bryan George <bryandgeorge@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>We signed up as well -- were told that they were going to be doing "several" houses on the block this month, and that they hoped to do 2 a day. They were leaving flyers on doors, but called us directly with the offer. The guy came in and looked at our pipe and sent a contract later that day. The service map (<a href="https://dcwater.com/servicemap">https://dcwater.com/servicemap</a>) shows which houses have lead pipes (at least which houses they think have lead) -- Paul, interestingly 159 is one of 2 houses on our side of the block that's listed as having copper pipes inside and out.</div><div><br></div><div>Bryan</div><div>147 Ky<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:31 PM Mark Jordan <<a href="mailto:mark@markjordan.me">mark@markjordan.me</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">One piece of knowledge I picked up when lead pipes in schools was most recently an issue:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">There are two kinds of lead in water: soluble (i.e., lead dissolved in water) and particulate (i.e., discrete pieces of lead that slough off of a lead source, which are typically smaller than the eye can see). Both types, when ingested, are toxic.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I raise it only because it's relevant to decisions to replace pipes based on the results of a test of lead levels in your water. If you have a lead pipe servicing your house and pieces of lead occasionally break off as particulate, they may or may not end up in a sample you collect for testing. In other words, you may end up with false negatives.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Mark</div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:02 PM Ken Jarboe <<a href="mailto:kpjarboe@gmail.com" target="_blank">kpjarboe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Some of the feeder line on Capitol Hill are galvanized iron. You can test this by seeing if a magnet will stick to the line where it comes into the house (before the shutoff valve. See </div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.dcwater.com/identifylead" target="_blank">https://www.dcwater.com/identifylead</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Peter R <<a href="mailto:CapHillPeter@doofuscorp.com" target="_blank">CapHillPeter@doofuscorp.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>There is a lot of information available at <a href="http://www.dcwater.com" target="_blank">www.dcwater.com</a>. </span><br><span>Try: <a href="https://www.dcwater.com/voluntary-replacements" target="_blank">https://www.dcwater.com/voluntary-replacements</a></span><br><span>and <a href="https://www.dcwater.com/replacelead" target="_blank">https://www.dcwater.com/replacelead</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>For a map showing if DC Water thinks you have a lead service line (they are</span><br><span>not always right), see</span><br><span><a href="https://geo.dcwater.com/Lead/" target="_blank">https://geo.dcwater.com/Lead/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Many years ago, when the water supplier to DC Water (then called WASA)</span><br><span>switched from chlorine to chloramine, it caused lead to leach into the</span><br><span>water. They later added chemicals to prevent that from happening, and the</span><br><span>lead levels in our water have gone down significantly. So much that DC</span><br><span>Water has cut way back on lead line replacements and is no longer considered</span><br><span>to be a "problem city". Most houses with lead pipes now register</span><br><span>more-or-less acceptable lead levels (including mine). But they do admit</span><br><span>that all lead lines need to be replaced eventually.</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Cap Hill, the city owns your front yard, up to the face of the house. DC</span><br><span>Water is responsible for replacing that portion of the pipe, but due to</span><br><span>problems many years ago, they will only replace their part if you replace</span><br><span>your part. If I recall, DC Water will do your part for a flat fee of around</span><br><span>$500, but I may be recalling wrong. DC Water's customer service line</span><br><span>(354-3600) is pretty helpful sometimes, so give them a try. They will</span><br><span>probably transfer you to the lead pipe department.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Replacing the shutoff valve at the same time is a very good idea, and may be</span><br><span>something that is standard. If you have old copper pipes, or older</span><br><span>iron/steel pipes (that is, not plastic pipes), you may also want to add an</span><br><span>*electric* shutoff valve also. This can be wired into a basement water</span><br><span>detector so that when the inevitable leak or burst pipe/water heater/washer</span><br><span>hose occurs the detector can shut off your water. You will still have a</span><br><span>flood, but you won't have a swimming pool.</span><br><span></span><br><span>If you are really concerned about lead and cost, the cheapest solution is to</span><br><span>get a filter pitcher or filter on your kitchen faucet. Lead won't hurt you</span><br><span>in the shower or laundry, only your drinking water.</span><br><span></span><br><span>--Peter--</span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br><span>From: Cathie Woteki <uygp-hs47@DoofusCorp.com> </span><br><span>Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 6:08 PM</span><br><span>To: <a href="mailto:lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank">lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info</a></span><br><span>Subject: [Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?</span><br><span></span><br><span>* Replies will be sent through Spamex to <a href="mailto:lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info" target="_blank">lincolnparkdc@lincolnparkdc.info</a></span><br><span>* For additional info click -> <a href="https://www.spamex.com/i/?v=127628876" target="_blank">https://www.spamex.com/i/?v=127628876</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>We were approached by a representative of United Construction Services about</span><br><span>lining the water pipe coming into our house with new copper pipe as well as</span><br><span>replacing the shutoff valve for a cost of $1200. 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