[Lincolnparkdc] Increase Safety of Lincoln Park Cross Walks

Wed Nov 27 18:35:39 EST 2024

I’m glad you’re in the neighborhood, Dennis, and am grateful that you took
steps to offset crime as much as possible.

What if the roads around LP were just pedestrian? I’m sure DDOT could
figure out ways to detour traffic to alternative arteries. Those arteries
might get congested but congestion slows cars. A good thing. In terms of
resident parking, not a worry. Plenty of that to go around. Then the end
blocks of Tennessee NC Ave Mass East Cap and  12th that bottom at the park
could just be cul de sacs. Delightful!

Happy Thanksgiving Folks!

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 5:48 PM Dennis Jones <dennisjones1 at me.com> wrote:

> Good Evening All,
>
>
> Thank you, Jessica and Sandra, for sharing your concerns regarding my
> cruiser potentially obstructing visibility at the southeast corner of
> Kentucky Avenue and East Capitol Street. As a long-time resident of The
> Hill, I share Peter’s view that this intersection has been a longstanding
> safety concern. Having experienced the challenges firsthand—particularly
> when my children, now 19 and 13, attended Maury Elementary—I am well aware
> of the stress caused by limited visibility and speeding vehicles while
> crossing East Capitol Street.
>
>
> My intention in parking at that location while off duty was to help deter
> crime and reduce speeding, both on East Capitol Street and along Kentucky
> Avenue, especially where vehicles frequently turn without stopping.
> However, I fully understand the concerns raised and will ensure that I
> refrain from parking on the corner moving forward.
>
>
> Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dennis
>
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 5:23 PM, Jeni Schoemaker <jaschoemaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Gina,
>
>
> Do you know why they don’t make the road around Lincoln Park one lane? I’m
> sure most of us have had close calls crossing the street there and I have
> witnessed more than one biker get hit crossing into the park. I have
> written to Charles Allen numerous times but nothing ever changes.
>
> Regarding the lanes around the park, I was curious why the street markings
> and the signage for turning left onto 11th street are contradicting. My
> family came very close to a car plowing into us two days ago because they
> were in the far left lane and wanted to go down 11th.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 3:46 PM, citymom92 at gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
>
> Well the best “reason in the world” to remove a car space at a crosswalk
> is so children, elderly folks, just, I don’t know people, trying to cross
> the street will be more visible in the crosswalk (also called “daylighting”
> a crosswalk) and hopefully seen by car drivers so that maybe they won’t get
> hit and injured or killed. That’s a pretty good reason to me.
>
> FYI the crosswalks around Lincoln Park are called “double threat”
> crosswalks in the transportation world. In a double threat crosswalk,
> pedestrians have to cross two lanes of traffic with no stop sign or traffic
> signal controls. While the car driver in the lane closest to the curb where
> the person is crossing *might* see the pedestrian and stop, very often cars
> behind them (OR in the next lane the person has to cross) DONT see the
> person crossing and try to drive around the stopped car and hit the
> pedestrian.
>
> Vehicles today are so much bigger than even ten years ago. The hood of a
> typical SUV hits an average size adult at their vital organs and kills you
> even at very low speeds. Smaller cars would break your leg. A child doesn’t
> have much of a chance surviving a hit even at very low speeds with the size
> and weight of most cars on the road now.
>
> Some jurisdictions have eliminated double threat crossings in heavy
> residential and pedestrian areas like our neighborhood by going down to one
> lane before the crosswalk, and opening it back up again after the
> crosswalk.
>
> And so ends today’s unsolicited lesson on why traffic engineers and
> planners pull parking back and away from crosswalks.
>
> Gina Arlotto, AICP
> DDOT transportation planner, focusing on child pedestrian safety for the
> last 15 years.
>
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Steven Cline <scline at scbtechnologygroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>  There is no reason in the world to take away residence parking for those
> of us who live on East Capitol St, unless you are proposing all parking be
> removed from city streets!
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Peter Barclay <barclaypj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  The crosswalk across KY at East Cap has been an issue for a long time -
> several accidents.  When the bike lanes were added/designed, we requested
> bump outs so that cars were forced to slow down before turning.  They added
> the little poles, which was an improvement from what was there before -
> nothing.   I hope the bump-outs will be built out, eventually, when the
> bike lanes become permanent.   Lights and no parking on east cap would also
> help, but forcing people to slow down before turning would make a huge
> difference, IMO.
>
> - Peter 126 ky
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 11:09, Sandra Caron George <sandracgeorge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing this, Jess. I have the same concerns, particularly
> about the police car parked by the crosswalk. There is never anyone in that
> police car, which is particularly odd to me (although, I appreciate that
> its presence may generally serve as a deterrent). Just as it's hard to see
> around this car to safely cross and for cars to see pedestrians, it
> similarly is difficult to see around legally parked cars at the crosswalk
> further north on East Cap SE. The legal parking just comes too close to the
> crosswalk for pedestrians and drivers to be able to see.
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 9:01 AM Marche' Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking to the officer in the vehicle directly might be the most
>> efficient way. Dealing with CM Allen's office, particularly his community
>> representative Kimberly proves a black hole.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, 8:54 AM Jessica Davis <jpedavis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am writing with concern about the safety of the crosswalks across East
>>> Capitol Street into Lincoln Park.   In the winter months when it is dark
>>> early safely crossing this busy street with my young children is very
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>> I can't be the first person to have this concern and would love to know
>>> the history of any prior attempts and how I can best advocate.   I have
>>> written to Charles Allen but would love other suggestions.
>>>
>>> I have one easy request -- to get the police to stop parking a car on
>>> the western side of the crosswalk near Kentucky Ave.  I assume they are
>>> doing this as a speeding/crime deterrent however the result is that traffic
>>> can't see you around the car when you want to cross.
>>>
>>> I would also love to see: bright streetlights at the cross walks, a
>>> button with flashers for pedestrians to activate, stop signs, and speed
>>> bumps to slow drivers.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jess Davis
>>> 132 Kentucky
>>>
>>> --
>>> J E S S I C A . D A V I S
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