[Lincolnparkdc] Increase Safety of Lincoln Park Cross Walks

[Jonathan Chen]

Why can't the city install a crossing beacon at each "double threat"
crosswalk as an immediate solution? There is a solar powered 4 way stop
sign indicator on the 9th (or 10th) and NC Ave SE intersection. Why can't
we get 4 of those installed around Lincoln Park on the North and South
sides?

Jonathan


On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 3:46 PM <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Well the best “reason in the world” to remove a car space at a crosswalk
> is so children, elderly folks, just, I don’t know people, trying to cross
> the street will be more visible in the crosswalk (also called “daylighting”
> a crosswalk) and hopefully seen by car drivers so that maybe they won’t get
> hit and injured or killed. That’s a pretty good reason to me.
>
> FYI the crosswalks around Lincoln Park are called “double threat”
> crosswalks in the transportation world. In a double threat crosswalk,
> pedestrians have to cross two lanes of traffic with no stop sign or traffic
> signal controls. While the car driver in the lane closest to the curb where
> the person is crossing *might* see the pedestrian and stop, very often cars
> behind them (OR in the next lane the person has to cross) DONT see the
> person crossing and try to drive around the stopped car and hit the
> pedestrian.
>
> Vehicles today are so much bigger than even ten years ago. The hood of a
> typical SUV hits an average size adult at their vital organs and kills you
> even at very low speeds. Smaller cars would break your leg. A child doesn’t
> have much of a chance surviving a hit even at very low speeds with the size
> and weight of most cars on the road now.
>
> Some jurisdictions have eliminated double threat crossings in heavy
> residential and pedestrian areas like our neighborhood by going down to one
> lane before the crosswalk, and opening it back up again after the
> crosswalk.
>
> And so ends today’s unsolicited lesson on why traffic engineers and
> planners pull parking back and away from crosswalks.
>
> Gina Arlotto, AICP
> DDOT transportation planner, focusing on child pedestrian safety for the
> last 15 years.
>
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 12:15 PM, Steven Cline <scline at scbtechnologygroup.com>
> wrote:
>
>  There is no reason in the world to take away residence parking for those
> of us who live on East Capitol St, unless you are proposing all parking be
> removed from city streets!
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Peter Barclay <barclaypj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  The crosswalk across KY at East Cap has been an issue for a long time -
> several accidents.  When the bike lanes were added/designed, we requested
> bump outs so that cars were forced to slow down before turning.  They added
> the little poles, which was an improvement from what was there before -
> nothing.   I hope the bump-outs will be built out, eventually, when the
> bike lanes become permanent.   Lights and no parking on east cap would also
> help, but forcing people to slow down before turning would make a huge
> difference, IMO.
>
> - Peter 126 ky
>
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 11:09, Sandra Caron George <sandracgeorge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing this, Jess. I have the same concerns, particularly
> about the police car parked by the crosswalk. There is never anyone in that
> police car, which is particularly odd to me (although, I appreciate that
> its presence may generally serve as a deterrent). Just as it's hard to see
> around this car to safely cross and for cars to see pedestrians, it
> similarly is difficult to see around legally parked cars at the crosswalk
> further north on East Cap SE. The legal parking just comes too close to the
> crosswalk for pedestrians and drivers to be able to see.
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 9:01 AM Marche' Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking to the officer in the vehicle directly might be the most
>> efficient way. Dealing with CM Allen's office, particularly his community
>> representative Kimberly proves a black hole.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, 8:54 AM Jessica Davis <jpedavis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am writing with concern about the safety of the crosswalks across East
>>> Capitol Street into Lincoln Park.   In the winter months when it is dark
>>> early safely crossing this busy street with my young children is very
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>> I can't be the first person to have this concern and would love to know
>>> the history of any prior attempts and how I can best advocate.   I have
>>> written to Charles Allen but would love other suggestions.
>>>
>>> I have one easy request -- to get the police to stop parking a car on
>>> the western side of the crosswalk near Kentucky Ave.  I assume they are
>>> doing this as a speeding/crime deterrent however the result is that traffic
>>> can't see you around the car when you want to cross.
>>>
>>> I would also love to see: bright streetlights at the cross walks, a
>>> button with flashers for pedestrians to activate, stop signs, and speed
>>> bumps to slow drivers.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jess Davis
>>> 132 Kentucky
>>>
>>> --
>>> J E S S I C A . D A V I S
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