[Lincolnparkdc] Proposed signal to stop sign conversion at 11th and Constitution

[James Grimaldi]

While interesting, none of the examples - not a single one — here fits the
situation of this intersection which has had a stoplight for the 25 years
I’ve lived here and I’ll bet it’s at least four decades.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:13 PM Stefanie Kendall <stefkendall at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey all --
>
> aforementioned article re: 4 way stops vs. lights, pros/cons of both:
>
> https://www.groveport.org/DocumentCenter/View/3996/Intersection-Safety
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:01 PM Stefanie Kendall <stefkendall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Amber!
>>
>> Here's nore from USDOT on the pluses and minuses of stop signs and
>> traffic lights, set in the format of myth busting. Presents a pretty nice
>> overview of both angles -- fodder for the critically engaged constituent.
>>
>> TLDR:  Four-way stop signs should only be considered after an engineering
>> study and a capacity analysis are performed.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 2:51 PM Amber Gove <amberanc6a at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> (3rd time is a charm? I tried to forward my full 6A04 update but it was
>>> blocked—hopefully this time works).
>>>
>>> Dear LP Neighbors,
>>> Since a question came up on this listserv about the proposed signal to
>>> stop sign conversion at 11th and Constitution I’m sharing the update I sent
>>> around to my list yesterday which included the following:
>>>
>>>
>>> *Proposed traffic light to stop sign conversion*, 11th and Constitution
>>> NE. DDOT has also sent us a Notice of Intent to convert the traffic signal
>>> at 11th and Constitution to a stop sign in order to improve safety. If it
>>> goes forward, traffic signals will be flashing red for 90 days while a
>>> safety evaluation is conducted. Please see additional details in the NOI
>>> here
>>> <https://ddotwiki.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/NI/pages/2194046977/NOI-23-49-TESD>.
>>> Comments are due by May 5th and we will be discussing this at our April
>>> 17 TPS meeting. Want to learn more? Here is blog
>>> <https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/10/30/for-a-more-walkable-city-replace-signals-with-all-way-stops/> on
>>> the topic, as well as a study <https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9370016/> of
>>> similar signal-to-stop sign conversions in Philadelphia (TLDR: crashes were
>>> reduced by 24%).
>>>
>>>
>>> The conversion is one of the solutions DDOT is proposing in response to
>>> resident requests for traffic calming on 11th. If it goes forward, signals
>>> would be flashing for 90 days while additional data are collected to help
>>> inform whether the change should be permanent or not.
>>>
>>> I’ve asked DDOT to share more about why they are recommending this
>>> change at the April 24 6A TPS meeting. I’ve also asked them to share
>>> any speed and volume data collected and how this measure would reduce
>>> vehicle speed and improve safety, especially for people walking. You can
>>> find our ANC agendas and meeting/connection information here:
>>> ANC6A.org/agendas
>>>
>>> In researching this type of measure I found this blog which includes an
>>> excerpt from Jeff Speck’s book Walkability City Rules. I’ll keep looking
>>> for more data and evidence and share what I find.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/10/30/for-a-more-walkable-city-replace-signals-with-all-way-stops/
>>>
>>> Thanks. If you’d like to receive my updates directly, please join via
>>> the link below.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Amber
>>> ---------------------------
>>> Amber Gove
>>> Chair, ANC6A
>>> Commissioner, ANC6A04
>>> email: AmberANC6A at gmail.com
>>> Twitter: @AmberGove
>>>
>>> 6A04 Updates: https://groups.google.com/g/anc-6a04-residents
>>> 6A Official Announcements: https://groups.google.com/g/anc-6a
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