[Lincolnparkdc] Fwd: Fw: Crash! 🚦Removal proposal shocks 11th Street

Stefanie Kendall stefkendall at gmail.com
Sun Mar 26 11:56:37 EDT 2023


Hello Neighbors -- especially those on 11th.

This was forwarded to me -- does everyone know about this switch from stop
light to  stop *sign* at 11th and Mass NE? With Idaho Roll on the horizon,
is this the safest option for that troublesome spot?

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DDOT to replace with stop 🛑 sign

FOUR-VEHICLE CRASH ON 11th STREET
A truck and three cars collided about 7:30 p.m. Saturday at Massachusetts
Avenue and 11th NE in a crash that seemed improbable. More photos below
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Local wags cast a skeptical eye on the Traffic light removal at 11th and
Constitution.

SEEING RED

DC'S FIX TO STOP CRASHES: REMOVE THE STOPLIGHT    *DDOT says 11th and
Constitution NE, one of the most dangerous intersections near Lincoln Park,
to have a three-way stop sign*
  *Switch Based on Data That's Decades Old  *


*By Tommy Woodward and Scherzer Bernstein *

BREAKING NEWS -- The traffic lights at 11th and Constitution are to
be removed and replaced with three-way stop signs under a plan proposed by
the District Department of Transportation.

DDOT is seeking comments on the proposal until May 5.

The removal of the traffic lights is "due to concerns about the safety of
pedestrians and bicyclists," DDOT said.
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The proposal brought strong reactions from neighbors.

"An intersection is less safe for pedestrians, as well as drivers, with a
stop sign than a traffic light," said Mark Ugoretz, who frequently walks
with his dog, Riley, through the intersection. "The 11 & Constitution
intersection is highly congested in the morning and evening with fast
moving cars that will not stop for pedestrians crossing with a stop sign."

Others were unsure. "I really need to sleep on this proposal but I doubt
that changing to the four way stop will make it any safer for me unless
there is some type of enforcement which there will not be," Susan Kitun
said.

"The intersection is a safety hazard regardless of the control mechanism,"
said Kip Knudson, who lives a few doors down from the intersection.
"Perhaps a speed camera on 11th between Constitution and Maryland and a red
light/stop sign camera  at the intersection are the only things that might
encourage drivers to slow down."

Under the plan, traffic signals will be flashing red for 90 days while a
safety evaluation is conducted.

The DDOT notice said, "Based on a review of volume and crash data for the
study intersection, it has been found that neither traffic signal norHAWK
signal warrants are met under the 2022 volume conditions. As such, DDOT
intends to initiate a formal traffic signal removal process."
Moldy Data Nearly A Half-Century Old
ANC Commissioner Amber Gove seemed to champion the proposal, citing a
blog. "Want to learn more?” Gove wrote in an email. “Here is blog
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on
the topic, as well as a study
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of
similar signal-to-stop sign conversions in Philadelphia (TLDR: crashes were
reduced by 24%)."

When you go to the blog, you see it links to data from 1978. That's not a
typo. *1978*.

"*While it would be useful to have more data*, the main study on this
subject, from Philadelphia, is compelling," the blog states, referring to
moldy-oldy data. "It recounts the *1978* removal of 462 traffic signals due
to a *1977* state ruling disallowing signals at intersections with limited
traffic. In almost all cases, the signals were replaced by all-way stop
signs. The overall reduction in crashes was 24 percent."

The study was published* 25 years ago* based upon the traffic changes made
in Pennsylvania *46 years ago*. We are not making this up.

Traffic management has never been Commissioner Gove's strength.
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A Perplexing Proposal Out Of Nowhere
The notice came as a shock to the local neighborhood and it is unclear who
requested it. Like a lot of things in the city, such as the inept   crime
code, the idea seemed to emerge out of nowhere — yet attributed to
all-knowing, mysterious “data.”

"I can’t see how a three-way stop will make anybody safer, and I think
people are at least more likely to stop for a light than a stop sign," said
Helen Betts, a resident on 11th. "Interesting that this was the result of a
'neighborhood request' — I have to wonder if that’s true, and if so, who
might have made that request."

Mary Farran, who lives on 10th Street NE, said crossing Constitution where
there is a stop sign only requires death-defying derring do.

”It's a terrible idea to change that intersection from a traffic light to a
[three] way stop,” she said. “I can't imagine why anyone would think
otherwise and I don't understand the reasoning behind DDOT's proposal.”
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A traffic collision at 11th and Constitution NE last summer.

The DDOT notice states
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"The proposed modification is a result of the analysis performed by DDOT in
response to a neighborhood request to consider the removal of the traffic
signal at 11th Street and Constitution Avenue NE due to concerns about the
safety of pedestrians and bicyclists. Based on a review of volume and crash
data for the study intersection, it has been found that neither traffic
signal nor HAWK signal warrants are met."
RATS!
Charlotte earns her keep today with another rat kill in Lincoln Park.
It was hard to figure out how these four vehicles collided. A truck and an
SUV were turned north on 11th Street but it was unclear how that happened.
The man in the truck was given a field sobriety test but he apparently
passed because he wasn’t arrested.



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