[Lincolnparkdc] Proposed New DC Circulator Bus Route on East CapitoL

Wed Sep 14 15:11:56 EDT 2022

Yes, public trash cans are used to dispose of many unpleasant things, i.e.,
dirty diapers, food waste, etc. These items also leak, smell, and attract
rats. If DPW released statements telling people to not dispose of any trash
item that smells, leaks, or attracts rodents I think they'd lose
credibility. Fortunately, DPW does a good job of picking up the trash on a
consistent, regular basis.  Unfortunately, the two corners you mentioned
where people do illegal dumping does not make them unique nor the people
who live near them some kind of target, it is a common problem.
Regarding tour buses and cars doing off-loads: Lincoln Park is a federal
park that actively encourages visitors to picnic on the grounds, many
people have children's birthday parties with food there.  Perhaps you could
have a conversation with tour bus operators or the families that throw
parties there? Or, NPS can do a better job of being on a regular schedule
of trash pick-up.  I don't think I'm alone in having seen overflowing
mounds of birthday party or picnic remains in those cans
Accessible trash receptacles for the public help stop litter. For example,
the parents who drop off and pick up and for the kids at Maury there are
two public trash cans right in front.
East Capitol is a significant traffic corridor, it will become more so now
as it will serve (hopefully) another needed bus line. The trash can that
served the bus line and the community was there when you purchased the
property. DDOT/WMATA saw the sense in putting it there the first
time, making it part of that 30% with a trash can.  One or a few people not
liking a widely held public good because it disrupts their aesthetic (yes,
your yard is very nice) is not a reason to not have those garbage cans.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 2:16 PM matt arnn <mattarnn at outlook.com> wrote:

>
> Conversation re: the circulator seems to be going in a different direction
> (no pun). Absolutely support additional stops on LP (Kentucky/Tenn Ave) for
> the Circulator. Great to provide more frequent neighborhood access to and
> from Union Station. Absolutely do not support bringing back the LP bus stop
> litter cans which were used as catch alls for Lincoln Park activities but
> were not NPS property or NPS maintained. As Gina pointed out, the DPW cans
> at E Cap/Tenn and E Cap/Kentucky were also popular illegal household and
> contractor waste dumping sites, car and tour bus garbage offloads, and
> primary poop bag drop spots for dog walkers en route to LP.
>
> With regards to the later, DPW notes in its “Doggie Duties” guidance
> (attached) for responsible pet owners: “Please be kind to your neighbors
> and avoid putting your bagged poop into a public litter can or your
> neighbor’s trash container. Not only does it attract rats, who eat the
> feces, the contents of the bag can leak out into the can or onto the
> street, leaving someone else to clean up after your pet.”
>
> DPW looked at use pattern over an 18 month period and determined that
> these cans were not being treated as intended. They also noted that easily
> accessible NPS maintained cans were located just across the street.  Rat
> activity at the cans was also well documented by DC DOH.
>
> DPW litter cans are not required design amenities or automatic best
> practices for DDOT bus stops. It’s case by case. There are twice as many
> bus stops in DC as litter cans. Only 30% of DC bus stops have them.  They
> are located primarily along commercial streets, zones, and corridors.
>
> My family resides at 1206 East Capitol ST NE. You are welcome to blame (or
> credit) us with rallying our neighbors to petition for the ECap north can
> removal. During our time here, we have done our best to dutifully restore
> and maintain our corner’s public space which includes the bus stop, 4 tree
> boxes, extensive side-walk and gutters, and keep it litter, ice, bamboo 🙂,
> and rat free. It's our responsibility, we know. And we love doing it.
>
> I am more than happy to civilly discuss this issue with my neighbors who
> may not agree with this approach or outcome. Again, we will
> enthusiastically support the request to add circulator service to the 96/97
> stop on North LP. We will not support any movement to bring back those two
> public litter cans.
>
> Attaching some images of the ECap LP can in case anyone is feeling
> nostalgic.
>
> Thanks LP.
> Matt Arnn 1206 E. Cap NE
> ------------------------------
> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
> behalf of Marche' Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2022 1:53 PM
> *To:* List server for the Lincoln Park DC neighborhood <
> lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lincolnparkdc] Proposed New DC Circulator Bus Route on
> East CapitoL
>
> I'm not. Another 311 service request went in. If others miss having a
> public trash can on the northside of the park, want to avoid crossing a
> busy road and having over-filled cans right next to the childrens
> playground in the park, you can also put in a service request by calling
> 311
> Yes, trash cans smell. They're meant for garbage and are located
> throughout neighborhoods to help stop litter or have people use residential
> trash receptacles for dog waste.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 12:41 PM regina arlotto <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The trash cans probably got removed because of all the stinking household
> trash that close by neighbors dropped in there, or the dog poop that made
> waiting at the bus stop an extremely unpleasant experience. I'm glad
> they're gone.
>
> Gina A
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 4:12 PM Marche' Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> And they can return the trash cans that repeatedly get removed from those
> bus stops.
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 4:01 PM John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the support. I fully expect they will be at the existing bus
> stops.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 15:54 Martha Huizenga <martha at mhuizenga.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks John. I think that's a great idea. In my submission I put
> Tennessee (westbound) and Kentucky (east bound) as that is where the bus
> stop is already located. Super easy for them to add a sign to the pole.
> ---
> Martha Huizenga
> cell 703-626-4026
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:42 PM John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> DDOT is formally proposing to add a new route on East Cap. The route in
> primarily designed to serve Ward 7, but it will come in on East Cap around
> RFK and proceed west to Third NE and then north to Union Station.  This,
> for people living near East Cap, it will provide a new efficient way to get
> to Union Station and transfer to other destinations.
>
> However as currently proposed, there will be NO bus stop between 17th an
> 8th, a long distance. I’m proposing that they also add a stop at 12th, on
> the north side of the park for westbound busses and on the south for
> eastbound.
>
> If you would welcome this route and in particular, the addition of stops
> at 12th Street, I encourage you go on record in support of it.
>
> DDOT will host a virtual public meeting on the evening of September 14,
> 2022, for feedback on the final recommendations. The public comment period
> will close at 11:59 p.m. on Friday, September 23, 2022. For additional
> information, project virtual office hours and meeting dates, visit the TDP
> Proposed Service Changes website
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>
> John
>
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