[Lincolnparkdc] FINAL PLANS and DDOT's eventual solution to safety
Diana Quinn
dqquinn at gmail.com
Thu Apr 8 21:59:16 EDT 2021
Can you tell us how many on that zoom call were for the installation and
how many were against?
(I bet you can't - just saying. I never saw a request for a thumbs up or
thumbs down)
Would you agree that the people MOST IMPACTED from the installation might
have a voice in the process?
ANSWER: THEY DON'T.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM Steve Marcus <sdmarcus at gmail.com> wrote:
> There were many participants on the January zoom call who advocated for
> the installation of the bike lane and improvements to pedestrian/bike
> infrastructure (I was one of them!). And, of course, many of the people who
> will benefit from that infrastructure were not on the call because that
> infrastructure will be used by people who do not live in this ANC. For
> instance, someone who lives on the other side of the Sousa Bridge and
> wishes to bike to Lincoln Park (or beyond) would likely use Kentucky Ave.
> DDOT is obligated to consider the views of all street users.
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:28 PM Marche Maine <markrichardgrace at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I do not see it as a war on cars but as an assertion of the equal rights
>> of alternative transport modes. The luxury of easy car parking is no
>> longer going to come at the expense of safe travel for bikers, scooters,
>> walkers.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 2:14 PM Margaret Rafferty <mhrafferty at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nicely stated Yanis. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Yannis Labrou <labrou at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Reading a recent posting citing 2 awful incidents where the vehicle
>>> operators did not observe current laws (and then some), I sense that DDOT's
>>> solution to public safety is to address whatever vehicle operators do even
>>> when they do not observe signs and traffic laws. Hence, the solution is to
>>> make it harder and harder to own and operate a vehicle in Washington DC.
>>> Fewer cars, fewer drivers, fewer miles driven, fewer incidents ... thus
>>> goes the reasoning. Let's call a spade a spade. Our lost parking spots,
>>> no-data decisions, no data-based assessments, traffic-calming eye-sores all
>>> over the Hill, etc. are just collateral damage to a flawed thinking in
>>> my opinion.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, the mentioned horrific incident of the 4 year old boy
>>> being struck by a car (and killed) happened in NW. In terms of relevance to
>>> our street's bike lanes etc., it might as well have happened in MD or VA.
>>> It is not relevant to the specifics of our street in terms of
>>> improving safety. Here is a link to the accident
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-year-old-boy-struck-and-killed-by-suv-in-northwest-dc/2627621/
>>> Indicative of the current thinking, is the following excerpt from the
>>> story:
>>> "Many residents, including Advisory Neighborhood Commissioner
>>> Erik Lindsjo, have been pressing to make Georgia Avenue safer for
>>> pedestrians and bicyclists.
>>> There’s no reason in a city where you shouldn’t drive over
>>> 20 mph anyways to have this many lanes dedicated to traffic,” Lindsjo said.
>>> “You’re inviting tragedy.”
>>>
>>> Yes .. take the lanes away (hmmm, Georgia Ave has two lanes in each
>>> direction at that intersection... make it a single lane each way?) ...
>>> Well, unless there are fewer cars, the same cars will "spread" to other
>>> lanes, presumably not intended for that many cars. Oh ... no worries ...
>>> DDOT will make these other lanes undriveable. Hold on ... won't drivers do
>>> stupid things because they do not want to spend twice the time as before
>>> trying to go from point A to point B? One can easily see that this plan of
>>> endless (new) restrictions only works if there are fewer cars being driven
>>> around, which appears to be DDOT's eventual solution to safety. Never mind
>>> the fact that Active Vehicle registrations in DC (per DC's DMV) have
>>> increased from 275K in 2010 to 360K in 2019 (a 30% increase over 10 years)
>>> per
>>> https://dmv.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dmv/page_content/attachments/Historical%20Registration%20Data%20FY2010-FY2019.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> To sum it up: DDOT's approach to safety is to reduce parking
>>> availability, driving lanes and miles driven at the same time that
>>> vehicle registrations are on the rise. Does this make any sense?
>>>
>>> Zero accidents will eventually happen when we all own autonomous
>>> vehicles that always obey traffic laws and protect pedestrians/bikers, even
>>> when they (pedestrians/bikers) do not obey the traffic laws; I give it 10
>>> years until it happens.
>>>
>>> Until then, influencing who our elected officials and representatives
>>> are, is the only path for those who would like to see a different approach
>>> to safety that does not reduce safety to a war on cars at a time that more
>>> DC residents own and operate cars.
>>>
>>> Finally, the zoom call with DDOT back in January was a stunning display
>>> of tone-deaf attitude and utter disregard for any viewpoint other than
>>> DDOT's.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time reading,
>>> Yannis
>>>
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