[Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?

Barbara Meierhoefer bmeierhoefer at me.com
Mon Sep 21 00:11:10 EDT 2020 

Don’t know if there is a connection, but we also tested for lead (free from the city) many hears ago and are fine—and we too, haven’t been solicited to do something amid this latest push. 

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> On Sep 20, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Margaret Rafferty <mhrafferty at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Yes Gina, they will still do it. It’s a city wide program. Call Kevon Levenberry 301-404-0951. He is the contractor (United Construction) coordinating the work. He should be out & about Kentucky Ave tomorrow. His company is scheduled to do 2 houses tomorrow starting apx 7:30 am @ Bob & Hazel’s home. They plan to do 2 houses each day this week. My home (103 Ky) and 107 Ky are scheduled for Thursday. 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Margaret
> 
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>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 8:17 PM, "citymom92 at gmail.com" <citymom92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Now that I’m seeing everyone getting their limes replaced I’m wondering why I wasn’t contacted along with everyone else. I wouldn’t mind the higher pressure I suppose, but I’m pretty sure we tested for lead when we first moved into this house and it wasn’t a problem. Wondering if I should follow up with DC Water. Will they still do it even if it’s not scheduled at the same time as everyone else this week? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Gina A 
>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Paul Krupa <paul.krupa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bryan,
>>> Yes, we do have copper as it is visible entering the house. The big gain for us is the bump up from ⅝” to 1”.
>>> Paul
>>> 
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>>>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 06:45, Bryan George <bryandgeorge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We signed up as well -- were told that they were going to be doing "several" houses on the block this month, and that they hoped to do 2 a day.  They were leaving flyers on doors, but called us directly with the offer.  The guy came in and looked at our pipe and sent a contract later that day.  The service map (https://dcwater.com/servicemap) shows which houses have lead pipes (at least which houses they think have lead) -- Paul, interestingly 159 is one of 2 houses on our side of the block that's listed as having copper pipes inside and out.
>>>> 
>>>> Bryan
>>>> 147 Ky
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:31 PM Mark Jordan <mark at markjordan.me> wrote:
>>>>> One piece of knowledge I picked up when lead pipes in schools was most recently an issue:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are two kinds of lead in water:  soluble (i.e., lead dissolved in water) and particulate (i.e., discrete pieces of lead that slough off of a lead source, which are typically smaller than the eye can see).  Both types, when ingested, are toxic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I raise it only because it's relevant to decisions to replace pipes based on the results of a test of lead levels in your water.  If you have a lead pipe servicing your house and pieces of lead occasionally break off as particulate, they may or may not end up in a sample you collect for testing.  In other words, you may end up with false negatives.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:02 PM Ken Jarboe <kpjarboe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Some of the feeder line on Capitol Hill are galvanized iron. You can test this by seeing if a magnet will stick to the line where it comes into the house (before the shutoff valve. See 
>>>>>> https://www.dcwater.com/identifylead
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Peter R <CapHillPeter at doofuscorp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is a lot of information available at www.dcwater.com.  
>>>>>>> Try: https://www.dcwater.com/voluntary-replacements
>>>>>>> and https://www.dcwater.com/replacelead
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For a map showing if DC Water thinks you have a lead service line (they are
>>>>>>> not always right), see
>>>>>>> https://geo.dcwater.com/Lead/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Many years ago, when the water supplier to DC Water (then called WASA)
>>>>>>> switched from chlorine to chloramine, it caused lead to leach into the
>>>>>>> water.  They later added chemicals to prevent that from happening, and the
>>>>>>> lead levels in our water have gone down significantly.  So much that DC
>>>>>>> Water has cut way back on lead line replacements and is no longer considered
>>>>>>> to be a "problem city".  Most houses with lead pipes now register
>>>>>>> more-or-less acceptable lead levels (including mine).  But they do admit
>>>>>>> that all lead lines need to be replaced eventually.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Cap Hill, the city owns your front yard, up to the face of the house.  DC
>>>>>>> Water is responsible for replacing that portion of the pipe, but due to
>>>>>>> problems many years ago, they will only replace their part if you replace
>>>>>>> your part.  If I recall, DC Water will do your part for a flat fee of around
>>>>>>> $500, but I may be recalling wrong.  DC Water's customer service line
>>>>>>> (354-3600) is pretty helpful sometimes, so give them a try.  They will
>>>>>>> probably transfer you to the lead pipe department.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Replacing the shutoff valve at the same time is a very good idea, and may be
>>>>>>> something that is standard.  If you have old copper pipes, or older
>>>>>>> iron/steel pipes (that is, not plastic pipes), you may also want to add an
>>>>>>> *electric* shutoff valve also.  This can be wired into a basement water
>>>>>>> detector so that when the inevitable leak or burst pipe/water heater/washer
>>>>>>> hose occurs the detector can shut off your water.  You will still have a
>>>>>>> flood, but you won't have a swimming pool.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you are really concerned about lead and cost, the cheapest solution is to
>>>>>>> get a filter pitcher or filter on your kitchen faucet.  Lead won't hurt you
>>>>>>> in the shower or laundry, only your drinking water.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Peter--
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Cathie Woteki <uygp-hs47 at DoofusCorp.com> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 6:08 PM
>>>>>>> To: lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>>>>>> Subject: [Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?
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>>>>>>> We were approached by a representative of United Construction Services about
>>>>>>> lining the water pipe coming into our house with new copper pipe as well as
>>>>>>> replacing the shutoff valve for a cost of $1200.  Has anyone on the list
>>>>>>> done this?  What was your experience?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for whatever information you can provide!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cathie Woteki
>>>>>>> 
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