[Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?

Sun Sep 20 20:16:24 EDT 2020

Now that I’m seeing everyone getting their limes replaced I’m wondering why I wasn’t contacted along with everyone else. I wouldn’t mind the higher pressure I suppose, but I’m pretty sure we tested for lead when we first moved into this house and it wasn’t a problem. Wondering if I should follow up with DC Water. Will they still do it even if it’s not scheduled at the same time as everyone else this week? 

Thanks, 
Gina A 

> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Paul Krupa <paul.krupa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bryan,
> Yes, we do have copper as it is visible entering the house. The big gain for us is the bump up from ⅝” to 1”.
> Paul
> 
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>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 06:45, Bryan George <bryandgeorge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> We signed up as well -- were told that they were going to be doing "several" houses on the block this month, and that they hoped to do 2 a day.  They were leaving flyers on doors, but called us directly with the offer.  The guy came in and looked at our pipe and sent a contract later that day.  The service map (https://dcwater.com/servicemap) shows which houses have lead pipes (at least which houses they think have lead) -- Paul, interestingly 159 is one of 2 houses on our side of the block that's listed as having copper pipes inside and out.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 147 Ky
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:31 PM Mark Jordan <mark at markjordan.me> wrote:
>>> One piece of knowledge I picked up when lead pipes in schools was most recently an issue:
>>> 
>>> There are two kinds of lead in water:  soluble (i.e., lead dissolved in water) and particulate (i.e., discrete pieces of lead that slough off of a lead source, which are typically smaller than the eye can see).  Both types, when ingested, are toxic.
>>> 
>>> I raise it only because it's relevant to decisions to replace pipes based on the results of a test of lead levels in your water.  If you have a lead pipe servicing your house and pieces of lead occasionally break off as particulate, they may or may not end up in a sample you collect for testing.  In other words, you may end up with false negatives.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:02 PM Ken Jarboe <kpjarboe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Some of the feeder line on Capitol Hill are galvanized iron. You can test this by seeing if a magnet will stick to the line where it comes into the house (before the shutoff valve. See 
>>>> https://www.dcwater.com/identifylead
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Peter R <CapHillPeter at doofuscorp.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a lot of information available at www.dcwater.com.  
>>>>> Try: https://www.dcwater.com/voluntary-replacements
>>>>> and https://www.dcwater.com/replacelead
>>>>> 
>>>>> For a map showing if DC Water thinks you have a lead service line (they are
>>>>> not always right), see
>>>>> https://geo.dcwater.com/Lead/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many years ago, when the water supplier to DC Water (then called WASA)
>>>>> switched from chlorine to chloramine, it caused lead to leach into the
>>>>> water.  They later added chemicals to prevent that from happening, and the
>>>>> lead levels in our water have gone down significantly.  So much that DC
>>>>> Water has cut way back on lead line replacements and is no longer considered
>>>>> to be a "problem city".  Most houses with lead pipes now register
>>>>> more-or-less acceptable lead levels (including mine).  But they do admit
>>>>> that all lead lines need to be replaced eventually.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Cap Hill, the city owns your front yard, up to the face of the house.  DC
>>>>> Water is responsible for replacing that portion of the pipe, but due to
>>>>> problems many years ago, they will only replace their part if you replace
>>>>> your part.  If I recall, DC Water will do your part for a flat fee of around
>>>>> $500, but I may be recalling wrong.  DC Water's customer service line
>>>>> (354-3600) is pretty helpful sometimes, so give them a try.  They will
>>>>> probably transfer you to the lead pipe department.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Replacing the shutoff valve at the same time is a very good idea, and may be
>>>>> something that is standard.  If you have old copper pipes, or older
>>>>> iron/steel pipes (that is, not plastic pipes), you may also want to add an
>>>>> *electric* shutoff valve also.  This can be wired into a basement water
>>>>> detector so that when the inevitable leak or burst pipe/water heater/washer
>>>>> hose occurs the detector can shut off your water.  You will still have a
>>>>> flood, but you won't have a swimming pool.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are really concerned about lead and cost, the cheapest solution is to
>>>>> get a filter pitcher or filter on your kitchen faucet.  Lead won't hurt you
>>>>> in the shower or laundry, only your drinking water.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Peter--
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cathie Woteki <uygp-hs47 at DoofusCorp.com> 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 6:08 PM
>>>>> To: lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>>>> Subject: [Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?
>>>>> 
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>>>>> We were approached by a representative of United Construction Services about
>>>>> lining the water pipe coming into our house with new copper pipe as well as
>>>>> replacing the shutoff valve for a cost of $1200.  Has anyone on the list
>>>>> done this?  What was your experience?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for whatever information you can provide!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cathie Woteki
>>>>> 
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