[Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?

Fri Sep 4 18:47:27 EDT 2020

Bryan,
Yes, we do have copper as it is visible entering the house. The big gain for us is the bump up from ⅝” to 1”.
Paul

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> On Sep 4, 2020, at 06:45, Bryan George <bryandgeorge at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> We signed up as well -- were told that they were going to be doing "several" houses on the block this month, and that they hoped to do 2 a day.  They were leaving flyers on doors, but called us directly with the offer.  The guy came in and looked at our pipe and sent a contract later that day.  The service map (https://dcwater.com/servicemap) shows which houses have lead pipes (at least which houses they think have lead) -- Paul, interestingly 159 is one of 2 houses on our side of the block that's listed as having copper pipes inside and out.
> 
> Bryan
> 147 Ky
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:31 PM Mark Jordan <mark at markjordan.me> wrote:
>> One piece of knowledge I picked up when lead pipes in schools was most recently an issue:
>> 
>> There are two kinds of lead in water:  soluble (i.e., lead dissolved in water) and particulate (i.e., discrete pieces of lead that slough off of a lead source, which are typically smaller than the eye can see).  Both types, when ingested, are toxic.
>> 
>> I raise it only because it's relevant to decisions to replace pipes based on the results of a test of lead levels in your water.  If you have a lead pipe servicing your house and pieces of lead occasionally break off as particulate, they may or may not end up in a sample you collect for testing.  In other words, you may end up with false negatives.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:02 PM Ken Jarboe <kpjarboe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Some of the feeder line on Capitol Hill are galvanized iron. You can test this by seeing if a magnet will stick to the line where it comes into the house (before the shutoff valve. See 
>>> https://www.dcwater.com/identifylead
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Peter R <CapHillPeter at doofuscorp.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> There is a lot of information available at www.dcwater.com.  
>>>> Try: https://www.dcwater.com/voluntary-replacements
>>>> and https://www.dcwater.com/replacelead
>>>> 
>>>> For a map showing if DC Water thinks you have a lead service line (they are
>>>> not always right), see
>>>> https://geo.dcwater.com/Lead/
>>>> 
>>>> Many years ago, when the water supplier to DC Water (then called WASA)
>>>> switched from chlorine to chloramine, it caused lead to leach into the
>>>> water.  They later added chemicals to prevent that from happening, and the
>>>> lead levels in our water have gone down significantly.  So much that DC
>>>> Water has cut way back on lead line replacements and is no longer considered
>>>> to be a "problem city".  Most houses with lead pipes now register
>>>> more-or-less acceptable lead levels (including mine).  But they do admit
>>>> that all lead lines need to be replaced eventually.
>>>> 
>>>> On Cap Hill, the city owns your front yard, up to the face of the house.  DC
>>>> Water is responsible for replacing that portion of the pipe, but due to
>>>> problems many years ago, they will only replace their part if you replace
>>>> your part.  If I recall, DC Water will do your part for a flat fee of around
>>>> $500, but I may be recalling wrong.  DC Water's customer service line
>>>> (354-3600) is pretty helpful sometimes, so give them a try.  They will
>>>> probably transfer you to the lead pipe department.
>>>> 
>>>> Replacing the shutoff valve at the same time is a very good idea, and may be
>>>> something that is standard.  If you have old copper pipes, or older
>>>> iron/steel pipes (that is, not plastic pipes), you may also want to add an
>>>> *electric* shutoff valve also.  This can be wired into a basement water
>>>> detector so that when the inevitable leak or burst pipe/water heater/washer
>>>> hose occurs the detector can shut off your water.  You will still have a
>>>> flood, but you won't have a swimming pool.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are really concerned about lead and cost, the cheapest solution is to
>>>> get a filter pitcher or filter on your kitchen faucet.  Lead won't hurt you
>>>> in the shower or laundry, only your drinking water.
>>>> 
>>>> --Peter--
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cathie Woteki <uygp-hs47 at DoofusCorp.com> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2020 6:08 PM
>>>> To: lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info
>>>> Subject: [Lincolnparkdc] Any experience with lead in water pipes abatement?
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>>>> We were approached by a representative of United Construction Services about
>>>> lining the water pipe coming into our house with new copper pipe as well as
>>>> replacing the shutoff valve for a cost of $1200.  Has anyone on the list
>>>> done this?  What was your experience?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for whatever information you can provide!
>>>> 
>>>> Cathie Woteki
>>>> 
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