[Lincolnparkdc] Parking on Kentucky

Wed Oct 14 11:11:28 EDT 2020

By all accounts you loose parking spaces with that kind of marking. (This
issue was discussed and rejected for the 100 block of Tenn)

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:10 AM Bill Sweeney <bill.sweeney at me.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to mark the streets with parking spots? I’ve seen in some
> communities where they have lines drawn on the street to create ACTUAL
> parking spots. I bet we could drop a few spots if cars were tightly parked
> and didn’t have half-car-spaces between certain cars on the street…
>
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Mark Jordan <mark at markjordan.me> wrote:
>
>
> In addition to improving the bike infrastructure on Capitol Hill, I think
> one of the virtues of the change will be to improve the safety of the
> crossing between Kentucky Ave and 13th St (*i.e.* the east side of
> Kentucky north of Independence).
>
> Currently, 13th is a relatively straight route as it crosses from south to
> north of Independence and cars driving through a green light can go pretty
> fast. For pedestrians crossing  (and there are many coming/going to and
> from Lincoln Park, among other destinations), there's no light, no stop
> sign, no crosswalk.  It makes me especially nervous for kids crossing the
> street there because there's no safe option.
>
> It looks to me like the bike lanes would have the effect of not only
> narrowing the path between the two streets, but also creating a slight
> turn, so drivers would have to slow down to continue on 13th.  I think
> that's a plus.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:53 AM Jonathan Bettin <
> jonathanbettin at aya.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>> I was only addressing 100 block as the original post seemed to indicate
>> that the planning folks had gone back on a promise.
>>
>> from the original post:
>> "asked him explicitly to answer regarding the 100 block of Kentucky Ave
>> SE. He told me that there would be no need to lose parking spots on the 100
>> block.”
>>
>> That still seems accurate.  As for an informal understanding with the
>> police, that seems like a risk.  That risk/reward calculation will likely
>> need to be adjusted if they resume ticketing in earnest?
>>
>> I have no doubt it is a significant change but does that therefor mean it
>> shouldn’t happen?  I’m new but we moved to the area in part because we love
>> the metro access and the ability to bike around the city.
>>
>> I fully respect how everyone feels but I would like to be part of a
>> larger solution to clogged streets, carbon emission, etc.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:19 AM, John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> You appear to only be addressing the parking spaces that will be lost on
>> the 100 block of Kentucky   Many spaces will also be lost on the 100 block
>> of 13th Street SE and 200 block of Kentucky. Those of us live near the
>> intersection look for spaces in all of these locations, those spaces lost
>> any place matter.
>>
>> I will have  lived here for 47 years tomorrow.  This is the most
>> significant change being proposed to this immediate neighborhood in that
>> entire time frame.
>>
>> We’ve for many years had an informal understanding with the police that
>> they would not ticket cars parked too close to the intersection late at
>> night.
>>
>> Immediately pre COVID, one frequently late at night would have to go to
>> the 1200 block of South Carolina to find a space. This is NOT particularly
>> safe. Taking another 12 spaces away is just going to force it to happen
>> that more frequently.
>>
>> John
>>
>> John F Hirschmann
>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:03, Jonathan Bettin <jonathanbettin at aya.yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I see my mistake in understanding the sign placement.
>>
>> I think this drawing accurately reflects the parking changes specifically
>> to 100 block of Kentucky.  I don’t know the signage currently on 13th or
>> the 200 block other than where the drawing indicates sign removal.  I don’t
>> think the change is removing a full car length (even for our mini cooper).
>>
>> <Kentucky Ave.png>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Jonathan Bettin <jonathanbettin at aya.yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I’m viewing the drawings incorrectly, but there seemed to be no
>> parking changes to the 100 block.  The drawings indicate a few moved signs
>> (big x’s through them) on the 200 block which take some spaces.  Am I
>> reading the late night parking comment wrong? If cars park at the actual
>> intersection (south of the “No Standing Anytime” sign), they are already
>> parking illegally, so would a bike lane stop that?
>>
>> While this article is mostly focused on commercial area parking, it may
>> also help frame how parking and driving incentives can be shifted to affect
>> behavior (public transit use, carbon emissions, air quality, etc).
>>
>> https://www.fastcompany.com/3029157/how-we-think-about-parking-spaces-is-ruining-our-cities
>>
>>
>> I’ve also seen some concern for our older neighbors.  Could we
>> potentially push to increase the number of handicap accessible spots?  That
>> combined with some assistance on applying for placards, may alleviate the
>> issue for those who parking close is a necessity.
>>
>> It’s a very interesting discussion and one where I think it’s worth
>> focusing of what we would like overall rather than just what immediately
>> impacts our personal convenience.
>>
>> Jonathan
>> 142 Kentucky
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Town Crier <towncrier at lincolnparkdc.info>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Please see the info from Steve that I posted this morning at 8:45.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:52 PM, John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> I was not monitoring my email earlier this evening. It appears the
>> notice only came in after 600p tonight for a meeting starting at 700p. This
>> seems totally inappropriate.
>>
>> It is now past 1130p so I presume the ANC meeting has adjourned.
>>
>> I have just looked at the drawings and in particular that for the
>> intersection of Kentucky/Independence/13th Street.  See page 8 of  drawings
>>     It appears that about a dozen parking spaces will need to be removed at
>> this intersection in all its four quadrants. The ability to park even
>> closer to the intersection which many of us do late at night will also be
>> made impossible in many cases. This totally contradicts the statement in
>> Steve Holtzman’s September 10 email that says DDOT said they did not think
>> they would need to remove any parking spaces.
>>
>> I did submit comments already questioning the need for a bike lane NW
>> bound in the 100 block of Kentucky since there already one in the 100 block
>> of 13th and bike lanes already totally circumnavigate Lincoln Park. This is
>> addition to the fact there has been essentially no public education as to
>> what are Advisory Bike Lanes. They are different than what are dedicated
>> bike lanes. I did NOT comment on the elimination parking spaces since prior
>> to tonight, this not appear to be an issue.
>>
>> More tomorrow.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> John F Hirschmann
>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2020, at 22:32, Sharon Raimo <SRaimo at stcoletta.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I expressed concerns about loss of parking on Kentucky Ave for our
>> residents who are mostly senior s or families with young children. Below is
>> what I received from Steve.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From:* "Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05)" <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
>> *Date:* October 13, 2020 at 7:25:13 PM EDT
>> *To:* Sharon Raimo <SRaimo at stcoletta.org>
>> *Subject:* *Re:  Parking on Kentucky*
>>
>> 
>> Sharon,
>>
>> Thanks. I do hear you.
>>
>> The public comment period (Notice of Intent - NOI) for this proposal is
>> open until October 15.* I encourage you to write directly to the DDOT
>> manager for the project Will Handsfield and express your concerns.*
>> Please copy me.
>>
>>    This is what I'd flagged when I originally sent around this last
>> month. Several people from the 100 block have sent letters.
>>
>>    I've been linking up with Mr. Handsfield since this all became public.
>> The main concern I expressed was exactly this. That we need to know if
>> there is going to be any loss of parking by implementing this. I asked him
>> explicitly to answer regarding the 100 block of Kentucky Ave SE. He told me
>> that there would be no need to lose parking spots on the 100 block. That
>> being said, I just got this provisional sketch late today and have not been
>> able to completely analyze it yet (or rather I've looked at it several
>> times but tried to decode it). Will Handsfield is supposed to be in our
>> meeting tonite (which we're in the middle of right now) and I plan to ask
>> him the question again and my views are going to be based on his answer.
>>
>>   If I was misinformed and there will be parking loss then I will send
>> all of you an email immediately tonight.
>>
>>    best,
>>
>>     Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> best,
>>
>>  Steve
>>
>> Steve Holtzman, 6B05
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Sharon Raimo <SRaimo at stcoletta.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 7:15 PM
>> *To:* Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
>> *Subject:* Parking on Kentucky
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>> I meant parking is restricted in summer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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