[Lincolnparkdc] Summary on Ind./Kty./13th SE

Mon Nov 9 17:46:41 EST 2020

I heartily concur.
David

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:34 PM Michael Whalen <mail at mswhalen.com> wrote:

> If passage from Kentucky Ave to the east side of 13th St is determined to
> be necessary while still meeting ADA requirements, a far less disruptive
> approach would be to create a pedestrian crosswalk from the eastern
> Kentucky Ave sidewalk to the corner of the Kentucky Ave island where ADA
> crosswalks are already in place to cross to 13th St  along Independence
> Ave. This would be significantly less disruptive than putting in creating
> an entirely new pedestrian crosswalk on 13th St that enters the sidewalk
>  some distance away from the existing intersection.
>
> Michael Whalen
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
> wrote:
>
> David,
>
>   I don't know the answer to this. The only thing i can add here is that
> this crosswalk was, to best of my knowledge, not part of the original
> project design. One resident suggested it. Will Handsfield agreed to add
> it. Whatever the merits of the crosswalk, that fact gives me a little pause
> for thought. I'm wondering why it wasn't proposed as part of the design
> from the start.
>
> Best,
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Holtzman
> ANC 6b05
>
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> Thank you Steve. In his response to me, Will says the crosswalk is
> “necessary to meet ADA regulations.” I take this to mean it is required by
> federal law and therefore non-negotiable. If I’m wrong and it is indeed
> optional, then I would favor eliminating it.
> David
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 4:19 PM Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
> wrote:
>
> Neighbors,
>
> For transparency, I am adding DDOT's reply to David's summary and proposal
> that the northbound advisory bike lane on Kentucky be removed from the
> project due to the accessibility of the existing northbound conventional
> bike lane on the 100 block of 13th. I'm not expressing a view, only sharing.
>
> Note that a significant underpinning of the response here is the planned
> presence of the new crosswalk as a rationale. This is one of the reasons I
> had posed the question last week to residents of 100 block of Kentucky and
> 100 block of 13th of their levels of support for the crosswalk.
>
>  From my point of view, as an outsider who lives 5 blocks away,  I'm not
> going to challenge a pedestrian safety feature such as a crosswalk without
> very good reason. But, it would be valuable to hear from a wider group of
> residents. I had 2 responses both in favor of the crosswalk. If there are
> ways to further modify the crosswalk to reduce parking loss, that's a fair
> discussion. DDOT has already made some modifications and will speak about
> the impact of those this evening.
>
> Residents of 100 block of 13th have made the case that all public policy
> decisions have costs and benefits and the value of the crosswalk needs to
> be weighed against the cost incurred by their households through the loss
> of parking spots. Without prejudging how that balance comes out, I do
> believe that we all have a duty to listen to our neighbors and make
> informed assessments of what measures are in the overall public good.
>
>
> best,
>
>  Steve
>
> Steve Holtzman, 6B05
>
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> Handsfield, Will (DDOT)
> Fri 11/6/2020 4:14 PM
> **
> **
> **
> **
> **
> To:
>
>    -  David Morris <figaromorris at gmail.com>
>
> Cc:
>
>    -  Allen, Charles (COUNCIL);
>    -  Oldenburg, Kirsten (SMD 6B04)
>
> +2 others
> David,
>
> Thank you for the email.  Perhaps we can discuss next week following the
> Zoom meeting.  I think what might not be clear is the rational for some of
> the changes at this intersection, which are not so much a result of
> inclusion of bike lanes, but rather, trying to scale-down  an oversized
> intersection (a former trolley turnaround) while following our current
> engineering rules for setbacks and parking within an intersection.  Of
> equal weight, and impacting the parking at this NE corner is the new
> crosswalk, which is necessary to meet ADA regulations.  This is as close to
> an immutable rule as we have at DDOT, there isn’t flexibility on this one,
> nor can we leave it as-is.  I’ll speak about this at the meeting, and am
> open to further refinements, but for a host of reasons, we must follow the
> design and engineering manual regs, which determine much of what you see
> here.
>
>
> Let me know what time you have free next week, and we can discuss.
>
> *Will Handsfield, AICP*
> *Bicycle Program Specialist*
>
> Planning & Sustainability Division
> District Department of Transportation
> 55 M Street SE, Suite 500
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> behalf of David Morris <figaromorris at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 11:18 AM
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> *Subject:* [Lincolnparkdc] Fwd: Summary on Ind./Kty./13th SE
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> Forwarding to listserv at the suggestion of Steve Holtzman.
> David
> 13th St SE
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *David Morris* <figaromorris at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 2:33 PM
> Subject: Summary on Ind./Kty./13th SE
> To: Will Handsfield <will.handsfield at dc.gov>
> Cc: Allen, Charles (Council) <callen at dccouncil.us>, Oldenburg, Kirsten
> (SMD 6B04) <6b04 at anc.dc.gov>, Jayaraman, Chander (SMD 6B08) <
> 6B08 at anc.dc.gov>, Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Handsfield,
>
> Please find attached a summary of concerns about DDOT's proposed redesign
> of this intersection, shown on Sheet 7 of the plans recently released. I
> hope you and others copied here will find it useful for the upcoming
> meeting hosted by Tom Woteki, which unfortunately I am unable to attend.
>
> With thanks and best wishes,
>
> David B. Morris
> 152 13th ST SE
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