[Lincolnparkdc] Fwd: Observations on Advisory Bike Lanes.

John Hirschmann hirschj154 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 1 09:46:00 EST 2020


Lucia

Thanks for asking. 

I can’t currently provide a link to Advisory Bike Lanes currently under consideration, but I can provide this link to a limited number of Advisory Bike Lanes that are already in place. My research so far is that it is still a very new and experimental type of traffic control. 

Here is the link to the study I found a few weeks ago.

 https://altago.com/wp-content/uploads/Advisory-Bike-Lanes-In-North-America_Alta-Planning-Design-White-Paper.pdf

John

John F Hirschmann 
hirschj154 at gmail.com
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> On Nov 1, 2020, at 09:25, Lucia DiVenere <lucia.divenere at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> Very interesting, John, thanks for sharing.
> 
> Are you able to also share a way for us to see the non traditional bike lanes under consideration?  
> 
> Lucia
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 9:12 AM John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Since we‘re in the spirit of sharing and I‘m very appreciative of the work Lucia shared yesterday, here is another contribution.  What is below is what I wrote up regarding how Advisory Bike Lanes were being implemented on E Street SE. I never got a response to my query. 
>> 
>> That is what is now being proposed for Kentucky Avenue, not traditional bike lanes. I’m now also hearing it is also being proposed for at least the 100 block of Tenneessee and now 12th Street SE, presumably from East Cap to Pennsylvania. At least for Kentucky Ave. it appears to be part of a study being supported by US DOT, so that may be impact DC DDOT‘s flexibility to modify the plans in response to community input. 
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>> I sent this note on October 7, which was a week before DC DDOT revealed its detailed plans for Kentucky Avenue pljust before th ANC met the evening of October 13.  It asked questions about how it was recently implemented on E Street SE.  It’s noteworthy it was done there WITHOUT REMOVING PARKING SPACES. 
>> 
>> John
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>> John F Hirschmann 
>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>> From: John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: October 7, 2020 at 11:31:06 EDT
>>> To: Will Handsfield <will.handsfield at dc.gov>
>>> Subject: Fwd:  Observations on Advisory Bike Lanes.
>>> 
>>> Also sent this message. 
>>> 
>>> John F Hirschmann 
>>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>>> From: John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: October 7, 2020 at 10:59:02 EDT
>>>> To: Kirsten Oldenburg <6b04 at anc.dc.gov>
>>>> Cc: Will Hansfield <will.hansfield at dc.gov>, Chander Jayaraman <6b08 at anc.dc.gov>, Steve Holtzman <6B05 at anc.dc.gov>
>>>> Subject: Observations on Advisory Bike Lanes.
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>>>> As a result of request for comments on adding Advisory Bike Lanes to Kentucky Avenue SE, I realized I needed to educate myself. 
>>>> 
>>>>  I’m shareing with just you some reactions with you after googling to see what is an Advisory Bike I’m going to write up something separately on adding Advisory Bike Lanes to Kentucky Avenue, but first I thought I’d share with just you some reactions with you after googling to see what is an Advisory Bike Lanes.  I had not realized until the exchange of emails last Thursday that it was different than traditional bike lanes. Clearly a whole lot education of drivers should happen since most people have no idea how to behave, where to go, who yields to whom, etc. In fact does any relevant legislation been enacted. Presumably relevant if tickets should be written, insurance companies need to sort out liability, etc. 
>>>> 
>>>> I also learned that it is a fairly new phenomenon throughout the country and E Street SE, is one of few, if any, other places it has been done in DC. Also, most if not all other places it has been done are not nearly as developed as the E Street from 12th to 14th SE. So I’m really surprised that DC and US DOT agreed  to  put it in those two blocks. I’m also very surprised there has been no or very little education  to explain to people how it works. See altaplaaning.com  as to how other places have handled it. 
>>>> 
>>>> Those two blocks are anything but residential. Starting at 12th Street SE you have a CVS on the SE corner with metered parking on E Street that had heavy use pre COVID.  On the other side is Watkins ES and it would have school buses lined up every afternoon. Across the street is a church that creates
>>>> a huge overflow of parking on Sundays as it appears most of its congregation does not live on the hill. 
>>>> 
>>>> Behind Watkins, you have an improved sports complex which has many competitions on it that draw both competitors and spectators from afar who need a place to park. It sees competition on it almost every day. 
>>>> 
>>>> On the 1300 block, the new Safeway just opened which is drawing more traffic to those blocks. The 325 units above it just started leasing. The entrance to its parking garage is from an alley behind it which you access via E Street. It is also how the 53 foot trailers that serve the Safeway get to the loading dock.  Shortly after it opened, I saw three of them there at one time. The way the loading docks are designed, they have to approach from E and exit on D. 
>>>> 
>>>> Across the street, two other large apartment/town house complexes have either just opened or are opening. Again the access to their parking is from an alley you access off E Street. So even more traffic is coming. 
>>>> 
>>>> Was this really a good place to do an  experiment?
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> John F Hirschmann 
>>>> hirschj154 at gmail.com
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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