[Lincolnparkdc] Why in times of COVID-19 you cannot walk/run/bike close to each other.

Fri Apr 10 15:14:02 EDT 2020

Hi all!
Appreciate all the neighborly information sharing and helpful social
distancing reminders. I did want to raise a flag regarding the Medium post
shared yesterday. Seems that the claims and conclusions it makes about
social distancing while jogging, biking, and other forms of outdoor
exercise have yet to be scientifically tested, vetted, or verified. Here's
more information on this:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

In any case, staying as far away from others during this time is certainly
intuitive, and all of us urban dwellers should be doing that to the best of
our ability in the common spaces we share and enjoy!

Take care,
Stacia

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 2:00 PM James Grimaldi <jamesvgrimaldi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> To the oblivious joggers who run past me, next to me, behind me every day
> at Lincoln Park: read this
> Belgian-Dutch Study: Why in times of COVID-19 you can not walk/run/bike
> close to each other.
>
>
> https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 6:00 PM Diana Quinn <dqquinn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It probably doesn't hurt to be more than 6 feet apart, too.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 5:31 PM Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you sooo much!!! yes!! Yesterday while walking around the park
>>> three people runners kids went by me with max three feet
>>> separation. Max!
>>> Mia
>>>
>>> From Mia's iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 4:57 PM, James Grimaldi <jamesvgrimaldi at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Steer clearer of people when exercising outdoors during the coronavirus
>>> pandemicChemistry professor: Six-foot distance rule is “not enough”
>>>
>>> https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-how-to-stay-safe-exercising-outdoors-during-the-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR1yBB4q7bYSrez384vaMF8TSGvBlh9J6dRU6ZidJ65imEL8gLJ5hi5vB3M
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:02 AM patricia petty <petty5914 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Steve, for the sounds/thoughtful advice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Holtzman, Steve (SMD 6B05) <
>>>> 6B05 at anc.dc.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Whether "prolonged contact" is necessary for infection or not,
>>>> personally, I would not like to have to judge whether someone running past
>>>> me sweating and breathing heavily, is putting off enough aerosol droplets
>>>> to risk infection.
>>>>
>>>> Just like I wonder whether I'll be infected by a neighbor or a stranger
>>>> every time I stand in a line for a prescription or someone passes by me a
>>>> foot away in a narrow aisle at CVS or someone stands too close  in the
>>>> checkout line  or reachs over me to get something on ss shelf at
>>>> Harris-Teeter.
>>>>
>>>> We are all dealing with a crisis that doesn't look or feel like a
>>>> crisis. There are no exploding bombs or people screaming and waiving their
>>>> arms around to focus our attention on the insanity of it all. There's no
>>>> clear end point. And DC government has acted in increments rather than just
>>>> shutting things down all at once and ordering people to stay home. So, it
>>>> only "sort of" feels like the sky is falling.
>>>>
>>>> It's easy to think that we can be flexible and not surprising that we
>>>> each want to keep elements of our normal lives. It's also easy to think
>>>> that we (or others) are over-reacting.
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, it's easy to think that there's a bit of paranoia creeping
>>>> into discourse. There is. Of course, there is. But that doesn't disguise
>>>> the fact that we all need to be careful. And when the risk is fuzzy and we
>>>> can't touch or smell it, and when this all drags on into weeks and
>>>> months....as it will...the only way to be careful is to follow some rigid,
>>>> unending guidelines. Otherwise we'll all fail a bit.
>>>>
>>>>  This is for everyone because this affects everyone.
>>>>
>>>> In New York, according to New York Times last night,  over 40% of
>>>> positive tests were people aged  between 18 and 44
>>>>
>>>> In last night's DC test results,  15 of the 46 people who tested
>>>> positive we're aged 30 or under. 30 of 46 were 50 or under. In other
>>>> words... 2/3 of those who tested positive we're aged 50 or under.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All scientific/medical guidelines on transmission are guesstimates. The
>>>> six foot rule is not there because It's some kind of magical number. It's
>>>> suggested to provide a margin of safety, (which, hopefully, is
>>>> sufficient).
>>>>
>>>> Please. Let's not second guess this or parse it or shave it our
>>>> individual needs and desires.
>>>>
>>>> Six feet.
>>>>
>>>> Social Distancing.
>>>>
>>>> Source: WHO, CDC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Holtzman
>>>> 6B05
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>> behalf of Web-based Kevin <temp_dude at hotmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:00:13 PM
>>>> *To:* lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info <
>>>> lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park
>>>>
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>>>> I have to agree with you.  The runners and joggers are NOT making any
>>>> accommodations for the rest of us.  On multiple occasions they've made my
>>>> pregnant wife step out into the street to maintain safe social distancing
>>>> because they won't deviate from their run path.
>>>>
>>>> ~Kevin
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>> behalf of Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:51 PM
>>>> *To:* LPDC Lincoln Park List Serve <lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>>> *Subject:* [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park
>>>>
>>>> Dear neighbors, I just took a walk around Lincoln Park "social
>>>> distancing" my way around and had three people run past me with less than
>>>> three feet between us. Can we Please Please be more conscious about spacing
>>>> when taking our walks.
>>>> With thanks, Mia
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>> behalf of Web-based Kevin <temp_dude at hotmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:00:13 PM
>>>> *To:* lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info <
>>>> lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park
>>>>
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>>>> I have to agree with you.  The runners and joggers are NOT making any
>>>> accommodations for the rest of us.  On multiple occasions they've made my
>>>> pregnant wife step out into the street to maintain safe social distancing
>>>> because they won't deviate from their run path.
>>>>
>>>> ~Kevin
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>> behalf of Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:51 PM
>>>> *To:* LPDC Lincoln Park List Serve <lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>>> *Subject:* [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park
>>>>
>>>> Dear neighbors, I just took a walk around Lincoln Park "social
>>>> distancing" my way around and had three people run past me with less than
>>>> three feet between us. Can we Please Please be more conscious about spacing
>>>> when taking our walks.
>>>> With thanks, Mia
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>> behalf of Web-based Kevin <temp_dude at hotmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:00:13 PM
>>>> *To:* lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info <
>>>> lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park
>>>>
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>>>> not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
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>>>> suspicious, please forward to phishing at dc.gov for additional analysis
>>>> by OCTO Security Operations Center (SOC).
>>>>
>>>> I have to agree with you.  The runners and joggers are NOT making any
>>>> accommodations for the rest of us.  On multiple occasions they've made my
>>>> pregnant wife step out into the street to maintain safe social distancing
>>>> because they won't deviate from their run path.
>>>>
>>>> ~Kevin
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* lincolnparkdc <lincolnparkdc-bounces at lincolnparkdc.info> on
>>>> behalf of Mia Grosjean <mia at miagrosjean.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:51 PM
>>>> *To:* LPDC Lincoln Park List Serve <lincolnparkdc at lincolnparkdc.info>
>>>> *Subject:* [Lincolnparkdc] my Walk around Lincoln Park
>>>>
>>>> Dear neighbors, I just took a walk around Lincoln Park "social
>>>> distancing" my way around and had three people run past me with less than
>>>> three feet between us. Can we Please Please be more conscious about spacing
>>>> when taking our walks.
>>>> With thanks, Mia
>>>>
>>>> For the latest information on the District Government’s response to
>>>> COVID-19 (Coronavirus), please visit coronavirus.dc.gov.
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