[Lincolnparkdc] lincolnparkdc Digest, Vol 8, Issue 44

Wed May 15 16:13:45 EDT 2019

Why don’t you all get a room. 

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Mark Ugoretz
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>   1. Re: lincolnparkdc Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15 (Elizabeth Teferra)
>   2. Re: lincolnparkdc Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15 (John Hirschmann)
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> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 19:31:34 +0000
> From: Elizabeth Teferra <eteferra at hotmail.com>
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> Diana. I know u didn?t ask for it to be removed. And it was disgusting. Even furniture was out there a week ago!! Who r these folks doing dumping. Not people who live in beautiful homes. They would take more care of their neighborhood I would think. Hmmm. Well open pop bags piling up and overflowing in LP and on street, don?t bode well for the rich and educated. Hmmm.
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> ??
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> On May 15, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Town Crier <towncrier at lincolnparkdc.info<mailto:towncrier at lincolnparkdc.info>> wrote:
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> Back off Elizabeth! You don?t know what you are talking about in this instance.
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> There are neighbors who take care of that spot, myself included. There are some some other very helpful, industrious and generous neighbors who maintain a group of community waste and recycling containers hauling those containers when full to the curb and then back again. Don't give me that NIMBY stuff.
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> The DC Municipal Regulations concerning putting out trash are as follows. They do not specify that trash must be put out in front of one?s dwelling, only at a collection point. The regulations cite ?point of collection?. The curb at the SE corner of Independence and 12th is a convenient collection point for both residents and for the trash collectors. If there is another part of the code that mentions requiring on to put out trash in front of one?s dwelling then provide the citation.
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> Here is the DC Municipal Regulations section 705 paragraph 5:
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> "Residents of properties where solid wastes are collected by the District, excluding bulk wastes handled by special collection, shall do the following:
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>  1.  (a)  Place the solid waste in legal containers, in a manner so as to prevent litter, at the point of collection no earlier than 6:30 p.m. on the day prior to the collection day and no later than the time of collection determined by the Director, on the collection day; and
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>  1.  (b)  Return to private property by 8:00 p.m. of the collection day all emptied solid waste containers including Supercans.?
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> It is unfortunate and annoying that refuse does sometime accumulate at the collection point. But before accusing your neighbors of being NIMBYs maybe you should first ask what your neighbors are actually doing for each other. And know what the regulations actually are.
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> Tom
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> On May 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Elizabeth Teferra <eteferra at hotmail.com<mailto:eteferra at hotmail.com>> wrote:
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> Well many neighbors on 12th and also on Ky put all their trash cans for pickup in that location. That is an unsightly mess usually. Bags and cans brimming over. Things thrown just Willy nilly. How come nobody complains about that mess?  Several of us have repeatedly asked for people to follow the rules and put your trash in front of your house. But, no, those neighbors would rather have that mess in someone else?s space. Surely none who take part  in that community trash pickup ever go out to clean up junk strewn around. Better not in front of your house. Sounds kind of NIMBY to me. !!
> So I am not going to pursue this further but as litter mounts from street traffic, let?s not get upset. As poop bags appear in your personal cans, let?s not get upset. One public trash receptacle is needed somewhere I think. Where will all those bottles, candy wrappers, and crap go from passers-by?  Probably right on the sidewalk!! So the trash will come home to roost folks. The greater good of one public can will now be spread all around the neighborhood with a big mess. Isn?t that what many neighbors didn?t want so came up with that communal trash collection nightmare?? So be it. Unfortunate act of complete NIMBY!!!
> I will NOT pursue this further. Good luck all. Elizabeth on Ky Ave.
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> From: John Hirschmann <hirschj154 at gmail.com>
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> I agree with the points Tom made.  I went to look at the trash that is now out.  It appears to be yard trash mostly in brown bags as distinct from household garbage in green bins. In fact there NO bins there uncollected.  It is not construction material as one person speculated. 
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> The normal garbage collection occurred this past Monday several hours later than normal, very likely by a relief crew that was doing extra duty. When that happens, because the truck can only hold so much, yard waste is sometimes left uncollected until the second pick up of the week. 
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> I think it very likely it will all be gone tomorrow. 
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> This is NOT the only ?collection point? in the immediate neighborhood. There is also one on the west side of the 100 block of 13th Street SE and near 1312 Independence Avenue SE. All this started to happen when DC went to the use of green and blue bins and now prohibits putting it out in just a garbage bag. The trucks cannot navigate many of the alleys. 
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> In my opinion, having green and blue bins out in front of your house the six days there isn?t collection is not very attractive. The only practical alternative is keep the bins in the rear and roll it to the collection point at the appropriate time
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> John
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>> On May 15, 2019, at 14:23, Town Crier <towncrier at lincolnparkdc.info> wrote:
>> 
>> Back off Elizabeth! You don?t know what you are talking about in this instance.
>> 
>> There are neighbors who take care of that spot, myself included. There are some some other very helpful, industrious and generous neighbors who maintain a group of community waste and recycling containers hauling those containers when full to the curb and then back again. Don't give me that NIMBY stuff.
>> 
>> The DC Municipal Regulations concerning putting out trash are as follows. They do not specify that trash must be put out in front of one?s dwelling, only at a collection point. The regulations cite ?point of collection?. The curb at the SE corner of Independence and 12th is a convenient collection point for both residents and for the trash collectors. If there is another part of the code that mentions requiring on to put out trash in front of one?s dwelling then provide the citation.
>> 
>> Here is the DC Municipal Regulations section 705 paragraph 5:
>> 
>> "Residents of properties where solid wastes are collected by the District, excluding bulk wastes handled by special collection, shall do the following:
>> (a)  Place the solid waste in legal containers, in a manner so as to prevent litter, at the point of collection no earlier than 6:30 p.m. on the day prior to the collection day and no later than the time of collection determined by the Director, on the collection day; and
>> 
>> (b)  Return to private property by 8:00 p.m. of the collection day all emptied solid waste containers including Supercans.?
>> 
>> 
>> It is unfortunate and annoying that refuse does sometime accumulate at the collection point. But before accusing your neighbors of being NIMBYs maybe you should first ask what your neighbors are actually doing for each other. And know what the regulations actually are.
>> 
>> Tom 
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Elizabeth Teferra <eteferra at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well many neighbors on 12th and also on Ky put all their trash cans for pickup in that location. That is an unsightly mess usually. Bags and cans brimming over. Things thrown just Willy nilly. How come nobody complains about that mess?  Several of us have repeatedly asked for people to follow the rules and put your trash in front of your house. But, no, those neighbors would rather have that mess in someone else?s space. Surely none who take part  in that community trash pickup ever go out to clean up junk strewn around. Better not in front of your house. Sounds kind of NIMBY to me. !!
>>> So I am not going to pursue this further but as litter mounts from street traffic, let?s not get upset. As poop bags appear in your personal cans, let?s not get upset. One public trash receptacle is needed somewhere I think. Where will all those bottles, candy wrappers, and crap go from passers-by?  Probably right on the sidewalk!! So the trash will come home to roost folks. The greater good of one public can will now be spread all around the neighborhood with a big mess. Isn?t that what many neighbors didn?t want so came up with that communal trash collection nightmare?? So be it. Unfortunate act of complete NIMBY!!!
>>> I will NOT pursue this further. Good luck all. Elizabeth on Ky Ave. 
>>> 
>>> ??
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